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| Quote ="jonh"I was stood directly in line with that pass and it was about a yard forward.
Didn’t see the Hood incident, Fafita despite being so far away as I was at the time like you say looked to be gesturing at a Fev player with Seni Lafao simply holding him calming the situation. Nothing in it at all.'"
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This is a double edged sword and reminds me of our promotion team. It is more than capable of gaining promotion. It’s full of players past their peak but still more than capable especially at Championship level. However once in SL that team would have to be completely rebuilt and that’s not easy even for a rich club.
It’s worth noting that for the last 20 minutes Fev were wllting and we were visibly stronger and fitter, had we shown an ounce of composure we could and should have won. Fev hung on because our ineptitude in attack kept giving them renewed vigour but that was a friendly, to replicate that ten or more times to stay in SL is a massive ask.
I don’t blame Fev and they have to get into SL to at least give it a go but it’s a fine line. As Phantom has stated, every time they get a young prospect they lose him and that’s the curse of a promotion seeking team. We were hugely lucky in our early SL years as we did manage to save a few kids and have some depth but it was tight.
Hope Fev do come up but the team that emerges will need to be very different from the one they have now in my opinion.
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This is a double edged sword and reminds me of our promotion team. It is more than capable of gaining promotion. It’s full of players past their peak but still more than capable especially at Championship level. However once in SL that team would have to be completely rebuilt and that’s not easy even for a rich club.
It’s worth noting that for the last 20 minutes Fev were wllting and we were visibly stronger and fitter, had we shown an ounce of composure we could and should have won. Fev hung on because our ineptitude in attack kept giving them renewed vigour but that was a friendly, to replicate that ten or more times to stay in SL is a massive ask.
I don’t blame Fev and they have to get into SL to at least give it a go but it’s a fine line. As Phantom has stated, every time they get a young prospect they lose him and that’s the curse of a promotion seeking team. We were hugely lucky in our early SL years as we did manage to save a few kids and have some depth but it was tight.
Hope Fev do come up but the team that emerges will need to be very different from the one they have now in my opinion.
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| Quote ="vastman"This is a double edged sword and reminds me of our promotion team. It is more than capable of gaining promotion. It’s full of players past their peak but still more than capable especially at Championship level. However once in SL that team would have to be completely rebuilt and that’s not easy even for a rich club.
It’s worth noting that for the last 20 minutes Fev were wllting and we were visibly stronger and fitter, had we shown an ounce of composure we could and should have won. Fev hung on because our ineptitude in attack kept giving them renewed vigour but that was a friendly, to replicate that ten or more times to stay in SL is a massive ask.
I don’t blame Fev and they have to get into SL to at least give it a go but it’s a fine line. As Phantom has stated, every time they get a young prospect they lose him and that’s the curse of a promotion seeking team. We were hugely lucky in our early SL years as we did manage to save a few kids and have some depth but it was tight.
Hope Fev do come up but the team that emerges will need to be very different from the one they have now in my opinion.'"
I agree re rebuilding the team, they have a few players who could do a job in SL but they would need 20+ new players which is difficult to achieve when you are picking up the scraps from what is left once the established SL teams have had their pick.
I think the last 20 was more to do with our bench than Fev wilting though. I haven't rewatched the game but on the day it felt like we put on players who were at the younger end of our senior squad and who hadnt had game time prior to that such as Aydin and Batch and others who had, had a good rest whereas Fev had to reintroduce the likes of Moores and Seni Laffao. I also think the younger lads brought a level of enthusiasm that the more established fist team players failed to show for the first 60 minutes. |
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| Quote ="jonh"I agree re rebuilding the team, they have a few players who could do a job in SL but they would need 20+ new players which is difficult to achieve when you are picking up the scraps from what is left once the established SL teams have had their pick.
I think the last 20 was more to do with our bench than Fev wilting though. I haven't rewatched the game but on the day it felt like we put on players who were at the younger end of our senior squad and who hadnt had game time prior to that such as Aydin and Batch and others who had, had a good rest whereas Fev had to reintroduce the likes of Moores and Seni Laffao. I also think the younger lads brought a level of enthusiasm that the more established fist team players failed to show for the first 60 minutes.'"
Well, we all see it differently but from where I was stood Fev were on the rack or at least should have been in the last 20, they looked tired to me. We looked energised but lacking in ideas, mainly because Miller thought he would be a playmaker, he is a great little player but I think most agree that he can't run a game, he needs to step back from that one. Gaskell has taken some stick but Miller didn't help him, they certainly didn't seem to be singing off the same hymn sheet, It's a shame because we know exactly what Miller is capable of whereas we don't know Gaskell's true potential. It needed to be the Gaskell show and it wasn't. |
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| Quote ="vastman"Well, we all see it differently but from where I was stood Fev were on the rack or at least should have been in the last 20, they looked tired to me. We looked energised but lacking in ideas, mainly because Miller thought he would be a playmaker, he is a great little player but I think most agree that he can't run a game, he needs to step back from that one. Gaskell has taken some stick but Miller didn't help him, they certainly didn't seem to be singing off the same hymn sheet, It's a shame because we know exactly what Miller is capable of whereas we don't know Gaskell's true potential. It needed to be the Gaskell show and it wasn't.'"
No I agree they were flagging but they were having to rotate players back on who had already played big minutes like you would do in a normal game.
We were bringing on lads off the bench on 60 minutes who hadn't had any game time (at least I don't they had) due to the size of our named squad.
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| Quote ="vastman"Well, we all see it differently but from where I was stood Fev were on the rack or at least should have been in the last 20, they looked tired to me. We looked energised but lacking in ideas, mainly because Miller thought he would be a playmaker, he is a great little player but I think most agree that he can't run a game, he needs to step back from that one. Gaskell has taken some stick but Miller didn't help him, they certainly didn't seem to be singing off the same hymn sheet, It's a shame because we know exactly what Miller is capable of whereas we don't know Gaskell's true potential. It needed to be the Gaskell show and it wasn't.'"
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Leigh looked gassed at one point mid second half and we were starting to get a foothold. Then the extremely harsh Fifita incident happened in possession and that seemed to breathe some life back into Fev. That was the turning point for me.'"
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Do Featherstone have deep reserves of financial backing or are they applying the Bradford principle to their expenditure?
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| Quote ="FSW"Do Featherstone have deep reserves of financial backing or are they applying the Bradford principle to their expenditure?'"
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| Quote ="FSW"Do Featherstone have deep reserves of financial backing or are they applying the Bradford principle to their expenditure?'"
It looks like they’re going all out and pushing their upper limits to finally get that SL place this year. If they don’t make it this season I fully expect they’ll scale back a little the following season. Speculate to accumulate. To be fair though I hope fev come up. More local derbies for trin the better. |
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"It looks like they’re going all out and pushing their upper limits to finally get that SL place this year. If they don’t make it this season I fully expect they’ll scale back a little the following season. Speculate to accumulate. To be fair though I hope fev come up. More local derbies for trin the better.'"
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The management at Featherstone have repeatedly talked about their massively-improved income streams over recent seasons, with sponsorship the leading factor (the press conference yesterday was told of £250k in new sponsorship since the reduced funding was announced last year).
Add to that 1,500 season tickets (and the price this year is far from cheap at £240, so there's probably upwards of £300k there), the income from allowing Wakefield AFC to use the ground, from staging BARLA finals days etc, a successful Squad Builder programme, and all the income from conferences, weddings, beer and food sales at the ground, sales from the on-site superstore...there are a lot of revenue streams at Fev these days.
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Don't thing anybody denies how rich the club may be, but are wondering if your club operates under the salary cap.
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| Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"The management at Featherstone have repeatedly talked about their massively-improved income streams over recent seasons, with sponsorship the leading factor (the press conference yesterday was told of £250k in new sponsorship since the reduced funding was announced last year).
Add to that 1,500 season tickets (and the price this year is far from cheap at £240, so there's probably upwards of £300k there), the income from allowing Wakefield AFC to use the ground, from staging BARLA finals days etc, a successful Squad Builder programme, and all the income from conferences, weddings, beer and food sales at the ground, sales from the on-site superstore...there are a lot of revenue streams at Fev these days.'"
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Maybe Fev are just managing their finances well.
I don't think it's fair just call them cheats because they have a good squad.
There are a wide range of players in their squad. Not all are on big wages.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Don't thing anybody denies how rich the club may be, but are wondering if your club operates under the salary cap.'"
The salary cap for Championship is exactly the same as for SL. Derek Beaumont stated Leigh have spent £1.2m this year btw. |
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Is there an income from selling the surrounding land around PO Road a factor by selling to housing developer?'"
I honestly can't remember what the latest info is on that. |
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| Quote ="PopTart"Maybe Fev are just managing their finances well.
I don't think it's fair just call them cheats because they have a good squad.
There are a wide range of players in their squad. Not all are on big wages.'"
Your being slightly overly literal. It is possible to unintentionally cheat yourself into believing that what you are doing is right when it isn’t. This is especially the case when running a sports club, it’s made even the most savvy of businessmen.
I’m not saying Fev are there yet but they must sailing pretty close to the wind.
Two points. The cap may well be the same but the income stream is not. No amount of sponsorship or the reasonably good ST sales can make up for the SKY money.
Secondly, I would say a good number of our players are on money similar to most Fev players and some of those will be playing this season. At the top end we will be paying more but it will even out a little as you go down the list. I suspect that minus the SKY cash Trinity are probably spending less on wages than Fev, can’t prove it but it wouldn’t shock me. |
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So you are agreeing that it's unfair to call them cheats?
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| Quote ="PopTart"So you are agreeing that it's unfair to call them cheats?'"
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We think we punch above our weight but for a small town Featherstone certainly do and I hope they come up (financially well managed!)
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| Quote ="1315trinity"Just highlights how our revenue will surely improve once the ground is complete.
We think we punch above our weight but for a small town Featherstone certainly do and I hope they come up (financially well managed!)
They have a great little ground, although I don't understand the two stand situation along one side - might be just me, but if they were built at separate times couldn't the second one have joined onto the first one? Just bugs me but I'm a bit strange that way
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