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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"I've seen your posts and they are always reasonable and you seem to be given the respect you deserve.
I passed the site on Wednesday and there were half a dozen cars outside the portacabins but no sign of movement.
I don't know how to do links and its quite a long interview with SG so I'll give you the main points.
Site developers have overseen some key advancements in recent weeks.
Support cables for supplying electricity have been installed under the field where the facility (ground?) will be sited.
A number of new companies have also signed up to become tenants of the complex in recent weeks.
The next phase of development will see the highways around the site constructed, with work set to commence around new year time.
Gill admitted unforeseen issues had set back construction on a couple of occasions but insisted he is happy with the speed at which the stadium is coming together.
One of the sources of finance did pull out but another was quickly found to step into the breach.
"We're comfortable with the current situation" said Gill.
He goes on to say that it will probably be 2020 hen we move but admits he is in no rush to move out of the jungle as it hasn't been condemned.
I suppose it all boils down to whether you believe SG or not.'"
The last part of your post is the most significant. All credit to SG for pacifiying the Cas fans. There must be a lot of questions from your bunch, same as ours; but I wouldn’t hold your breath, it’s not likely to happen as soon as he says. Trust me.
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| Quote ="Barnsley Tiger"I agree a community facility for the Wakefield district is much needed. One or more of the districts sports clubs as anchor tenant would be great ensuring it is used regularly but the exact location does not matter as long as it is in the Wakefield district surely.
The main criteria for WMDC is how to fund it so it would be the cheapest option for them.
Regarding Castleford / Wakefield, each club has to get the best deal for them to ensure a future but as it stands at the minute Glasshoughton seems to be the only one on the table.
I personally support Wakefields campaign but think there is not a lot of mileage in chasing the council as time is not on the clubs side maybe.'"
When I posted this last week about a community stadium being anywhere in the borough and it being for any club not necessary Wakefield Trinity, it was seized upon as a go at Wakefield Trinity. My point was WMDC may build a community stadium without Trinity being anchor tenants, thus getting them out of any issues concerning Newmarket.
My post about a ground share being a different issue entirely but I still worry that the RFL are keeping quiet and are not helping Wakefield. Lets hope they are behind the scenes and all will come good.
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| Quote ="Barnsley Tiger"When I posted this last week about a community stadium being anywhere in the borough and it being for any club not necessary Wakefield Trinity, it was seized upon as a go at Wakefield Trinity. My point was WMDC may build a community stadium without Trinity being anchor tenants, thus getting them out of any issues concerning Newmarket.
My post about a ground share being a different issue entirely but I still worry that the RFL are keeping quiet and are not helping Wakefield. Lets hope they are behind the scenes and all will come good.'"
Unless you are talking about 2 "H's" and a park bench, there is more chance of it raining £10 notes.
Aside from Cas and Wakeifeld, who would play at a purpose built 12,000 capacity stadium in Wakefield ??
And for this reason, you still appear to be trolling.
The bullsh** in the Wakefield Express a few weeks ago about "building a ground anyway", really was the biggest mickey take ever and the people responsible for giving that to the press aren't fit to run a playgroup, never mind a district council.
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| Is there any coincidence with the community work that has recently been happening in Barnsley.
Oakwell is a decent stadium but maybe too far away I feel
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| I think Barnsley would be a good choice ,nice ground ,reasonable distance and a chance to get away from mr box wmdc and our new landlord do for me.
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| Also when I worked in Barnsley many years ago a few of the Barnsley lads used to watch Wakefield and some of them to get on about the great trinity side of the 1960s so we could get a bit of local interest if we did play there.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Is there any coincidence with the community work that has recently been happening in Barnsley.
Oakwell is a decent stadium but maybe too far away I feel'"
We've also been doing community work in Doncaster schools.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Is there any coincidence with the community work that has recently been happening in Barnsley.
Oakwell is a decent stadium but maybe too far away I feel'"
Obviously, I don't know the ins and outs and finer details of everything that's going on atm, but if we are well and truly done in Wakefield and our next best bet for next year is Dewsbury or Feath. I think to keep our SL licence and this team together long term those places currently don't offer that imo.
If it was any way financially viable and the BFC owners are up for it, Barnsley is probably our best hope of a SL future imo at least for the next few years. For those in charge, things like naming rights of the stadium, sponsorship and what deal we get on drinks & food on matchday etc, will be affected anywhere we go. Plus would we have to change our name if it was for the foreseeable future?
Trying to be slightly positive about it, maybe any lost fans that may not fancy the trip over, might be taken up by locals gradually, especially if we're playing good RL near the top of the League.
Ateotd though who knows. It's absolutely sickening as a fan and I know we all feel the same. We finally can see things starting to come together on & off the pitch and the Clubs being run in a sensible sustainable way for once & we've got this constantly in the background hanging over our heads. Generally, it's the other way around.
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| When Barnsley was on the cards a few seasons back wasn't the cost far too high to make it viable?
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| Compared to the amount 88m are asking it must be a viable option !
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| The issue though is not just a ground is it? Newmarket was agreed to take out Greenbelt land for Industrial use provided a stadium and other community facilities were built. Just day BV was developed what happens about the other facilities. A lot of money sloshing about here and no one in authority seems to have grip from what I have seen reported it's always someone else's issue!
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| I believe the Barnsley option has been looked at before and ruled out due to costs. Oakwell ain't the crappy little stadium that it used to be when we last played there; it's now football Premier League standard and therefore not a viable option for us.
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"The issue though is not just a ground is it? Newmarket was agreed to take out Greenbelt land for Industrial use provided a stadium and other community facilities were built. Just day BV was developed what happens about the other facilities. A lot of money sloshing about here and no one in authority seems to have grip from what I have seen reported it's always someone else's issue!'"
I know that and have commented on the whole sorry saga and lack of the bigger picture that is the facilities loads of times. I was just thinking about our immediate future ( since MC stated that 88m bloke isn't even getting back in touch with him to rent Belle Vue for next season) as in the next 3 years or so & retaining SL status, because by the looks of things we're not going to get anything built even if we win at Court, however long that may take.
So by the looks, Barnsley has now become too expensive and it'll be down to Dewsbury or Featherstone.
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| Barnsley FC are currently in the process of being bought out by a US/Chinese consortium. I'm a Barnsley FC season ticket holder and up until now I've understood that the club don't want us there. However, the new owners may have different ideas. Living in South Wakefield Oakwell woud be better for me than Newmarket , but the walk back from the ground is a killer!!
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| Quote ="MashPotatoes"The last part of your post is the most significant. All credit to SG for pacifiying the Cas fans. There must be a lot of questions from your bunch, same as ours; but I wouldn’t hold your breath, it’s not likely to happen as soon as he says. Trust me.'"
Haven't been down the lane since the last game so I can't be sure but apparently the gold mine (the boot room) opposite the Cas ground is up for sale/lease. Maybe the current landlord believes it will happen.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"Haven't been down the lane since the last game so I can't be sure but apparently the gold mine (the boot room) opposite the Cas ground is up for sale/lease. Maybe the current landlord believes it will happen.'"
...or dying the death of all pubs and even 15 busy afternoons a year is not enough to sustain it.
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| Quote ="coco the fullback"...or dying the death of all pubs and even 15 busy afternoons a year is not enough to sustain it.'" got it spot on there, I've seen more pubs closing, landlord selling up, managers changing on a frequent basis, this year has seen a 20% reduction in cask ales sales for most and are turned more to can and bottled production to keep afloat
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| Quote ="Redscat"Barnsley FC are currently in the process of being bought out by a US/Chinese consortium. I'm a Barnsley FC season ticket holder[u and up until now I've understood that the club don't want us there.[/u However, the new owners may have different ideas. Living in South Wakefield Oakwell woud be better for me than Newmarket ,[u but the walk back from the ground is a killer![/u!'"
Who would have the final say, Barnsley FC or Barnsley council? as for walking back from the ground, I'm sure there are buses that run between the towns
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| Why pay a commercial rent to Barnsley with all the additional costs such a ground would produce including the upkeep on the playing surface for example. I would suggest the club actually ask all supporters what their views are regarding any relocation because the few of you on here who think it is acceptable just isn’t enough to pay the bills.
The bottom line is we cannot make a permanent home away from Wakefield or we face oblivion and those running the club will have succeeded where others have failed over the recent period.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I would suggest the club actually ask all supporters what their views are regarding any relocation because the few of you on here who think it is acceptable just isn’t enough to pay the bills.'"
This isn't a democracy, we can have an opinion but unless we've put our money where our mouth is and bought shares we don't have a say. Also, as I've stated a few times, we don't have the all the details and it's probably not wise to share them all with us, so how can we make an educated decision?
Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"The bottom line is we cannot make a permanent home away from Wakefield or we face oblivion and those running the club will have succeeded where others have failed over the recent period.'"
I don't understand what you're saying here...can you clarify? It sounds like you're accusing the owners of wanting to fail...which I'm sure isn't true
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"because the few of you on here who think it is acceptable just isn’t enough to pay the bills. '"
So you think "one of you" is more representative than "a few of us"
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those running the club will have succeeded where others have failed over the recent period.'"
The club has been treading water an all fronts for the last 10 years at least! Many "dead weights" have been removed over the recent years thanks to those currently running the club. Only two remain: The ground issue and you!
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| No what I am saying is that by moving from Wakefield we would be playing into the hands of those like the RL who wish to see us lose our SL status.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"No what I am saying is that by moving from Wakefield we would be playing into the hands of those like the RL who wish to see us lose our SL status.'"
I'm sure if the RL wanted us to lose our super league status, with the opportunities we've given them over the years they would have done so by now.
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| They would and were going to if the Crusaders had not folded.
Would a Trinity based in Wakefield not be harder to remove than one based outside the city and possibly outside the county.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"They would and were going to if the Crusaders had not folded.
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No they weren't.
You really are an embarrassment, your desperation for the club to fold is disgraceful.
You are worse than a troll, seriously.
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