It's a great saying but it doesn't work in the context in which I used the expression.

Fifita's had the surgery. Photo on his Instagram of the scar after he had his boot taken off.

Knees and feet both stop you running. I'm only assuming they are the same magnitude.

I don't know tbh but I get the feeling that a knee is more complex generally when it comes to surgery. It's un-scientific but I broke a bone in my foot once and they just put on a plastic cast thing for a few weeks whilst they did nothing for a broken toe. Likewise, my mate fractured the bone just above the ankle which he had plated up but he was walking in four weeks and running in 8. So I'm just going off personal experience but as I say its very un-scientific.

It just depends what it it I guess.
I tore ACL and medial playing rugby.
Took me a good year to recover as I wasn't a pro training every day so I know it's major but equally a big toe injury effectively ended Linekar's career and stopped Haye winning a world title.
Time wise certainly there is a lot more to heal in a knee.

I’ll give you lineker but I’m not having the haye one. Didn’t get near klitchsko toe or not (it was his little toe if I remember right), he always had an excuse throughout his career.

Hopefully all the players will get a good off season under their belts and come back fully fit. Surely we won’t see so many bad injuries next year.

I agree. I was just picking examples. Haye was a strange one.

It will be like having a team of new signings when they are all back. Main thing to work on is syncing them all back up as a team.

And getting them incredibly fit as in the Geoff Evans days.

Haye could not put push on his right leg at all throughout the fight, he was so far removed from the style he was fighting at the time I don`t know how you could come to a conclusion it would not have had any effect on the fight.

He should have pulled out of the fight but he didn't and yes, he would of probably done right to just keep his mouth shut. You obviously know very little about boxing as a broken toe, or any foot injury effects balance and everything goes from that in boxing.

Lets be fair he probably knows just as much about boxing as you do rugby

And that’s coming from the horizontal champ

only kidding

Wow. The statement was “it cost Haye a world title”. I’m saying he wouldn’t have won that title injury or not. Was I being unclear? It did have an effect on the fight yes, it made it a snooze
Fest and he would still have lost anyway instead of losing by 12 rounds on the cards. The guy has a history of pulling out of fights and making excuses. Ask Tyson Fury his opinion, but he probably knows nothing either.

Tbh I don't know whether he'd have won or not without that foot injury but what I'm sure of is that performance was a shadow of a normal Haye fight. Haye's a power puncher capable of putting anyone to sleep in the HW division so it would have been silly to rule him out imo. A foot injury makes it impossible to deliver your power shots in the same way or effectiveness and that was clear all fight. He had trouble all nighty getting into and out of Klitchko's range, where normally it's one of the things he's been good at, countering shots of taller boxers. Ateotd Klitchko was on his game and used his height and jab like he always did. Haye needed everything to go right and needed to land heavy hands on him early which he just wasn't able to do.

As for him pulling out of fights, every fighter does especially as they get older. Fury nearly wrecked his whole career through lack of self discipline , drugs and mental health problems, even before that he's not really someone who i'd be looking to get the truth from.

Just on the back of this post, Dave looks to be going under the knife again...

Hopefully Dave can get this sorted one way or the other for the start of the season.

Let's hope it's just a cleanup. Best done now as there is hopefully ample recovery time.

Trying my best to keep up to what started as a decent thread, which Dave are we talking about here?, Fifita or Haye.

so no pre season training for him - you most as well wright of this season for him wont get back to full fitness to have any impact
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To be fair he's never looked in the best of shape for an athlete, his bulk seems to be his strong point.

Seriously mate you're boring .


Like the rest of us, apart from a picture with him with his foot in a bandage, we all don't have a clue how serious or not his injury is atm - or how long it'll take to put right. Could be something simple like a clean out, or they mmay want to have another look because he's still got discomfort.

Lets be right even if he missed Pre season, it would only take a dew games to get him ready.I remember when he first came to Trinity, he wasn't as fit as he should have been but he was till our best forward after he arrived mid season.

Yer you're right. I think I'm going to give my ticket. No point now.

Wasn't it last preseason when you said he wouldn't return from Oz?

We are not a one man team ,we managed very well without big Dave last 5 games last season.Played a lot better than we had for most of season.. We do not know if he is going to miss start of season lets wait and see.

A very salient point re: the last 5 games