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| For foxshake we riddled with injury's Anderson,godinet,ashurst,Lynne ,pea,kirke,plus kirmond not 100% give webbo some time I'm as p off as everyone else come on smell the coffee
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| Enough of the quick fixes. Until the club is properly and sustainably supported it's never going to grow and we'll keep having this discussion ad infinitum. If Webster were to go (and unless he resigns it's not going to happen) we'd only get another flawed coach who'll make their own mistakes and so the fans turn on him until the next fall guy is installed. If it takes a drop into the division below to get the club sorted so be it. Consistently fire fighting isn't doing anything for the club. After 15 years of top flight action the club has not evolved one iota. We still get crap crowds, we still have few club trained players in the squad, we still are lurking in the lower echelons of Super League and despite the best efforts of a few people we still operating out of a unfit for purpose stadium.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Enough of the quick fixes. Until the club is properly and sustainably supported it's never going to grow and we'll keep having this discussion ad infinitum. If Webster were to go (and unless he resigns it's not going to happen) we'd only get another flawed coach who'll make their own mistakes and so the fans turn on him until the next fall guy is installed. If it takes a drop into the division below to get the club sorted so be it. Consistently fire fighting isn't doing anything for the club. After 15 years of top flight action the club has not evolved one iota. We still get crap crowds, we still have few club trained players in the squad, we still are lurking in the lower echelons of Super League and despite the best efforts of a few people we still operating out of a unfit for purpose stadium.'"
This is very similar to how I am now thinking. Only once have we looked like a team that could go places and that was the season when we were cheated at Wigan. Since then we have thought success was staying in SL.
I've had enough of that ethos but I cannot see us progressing until we get a Dr whatshisname for our team. This does not mean I am being disrespectful for the present regime or indeed AG, for without them we would have folded.
Our support is pathetic really but I'm afraid it is as good as it's going to get, until there is a team of true quality at the club and a better environment to actually go to. The crowds will then return.
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| A nonsense thread.
Noble, who reportedly wanted 200k a year was and remains a non starter.
He had full cap to spend at Salford and got nowt.
Webster has had very little and we are blighted by the worst injury crisis possible.
Our pack is ok when we are fully fit but, with the guys that are out and with Simon and Scrutton both struggling yesterday
we were never going to win.
Yes, there should have been more desire and playing for each other but, until we get some bodies back, we will struggle to
beat anyone.
The players confidence looks shot to pieces and the players that we have brought in recently weren't good enough for Salford and Hull etc
but we expect them to give us something.
As someone said on a different thread, we need some kind of Easter Miracle.
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| Sick of I jury's been the excuse saints had as many out but battled to the end cos they have passion and a coach who gives them passion to fight to the end we on the other hand have Webster who by the sound of his voice after the match was not hurt by the result.even when we had full team out widnes outplayed us as did cas for 65 mins we are lucky to have two wins and no matter who is fit we will be lucky to get more wins including Halifax.i have my tickets for Monday and will be there I don't expect anything but a heavy defeat but it would be nice to be there at half time think yeah we're still in this actually I'll even settle to actually score first has it not happend yet
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| Again I'm repeating what I said months ago until we get out of Bellevue and move to a new stadium were always going to be in a dog fight .crap stadium will not atrack quality players so for the time being give webbo time .
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| will never leave Bella Vue its not going to happen
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| Its money that will attract players not the stadium (although I'm not denying we need one). Having said that , Ive just watched Cas v Leeds and to be honest they (Cas) didn't look much better than us and they had a full team out. It's the attitude of our players at the minute thats soul destroying….they have all bought into the injury crisis and look decidedly sorry for themselves which is pretty pathetic. Lets hope we can ride this storm until we get some troops back and then see how we perform, also I hope we have some youngsters in on Monday because they play will total enthusiasm and desire and make the trip to headingley a bit more bearable.
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| Quote ="cosmicat"For foxshake we riddled with injury's Anderson,godinet,ashurst,Lynne ,pea,kirke,plus kirmond not 100% give webbo some time I'm as p off as everyone else come on smell the coffee'"
Exactly plus the fact that people are delusional if they think we will move from Belle Vue any time soon.
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| True so forget any dreams of ever getting into the top eight . its the middle eight or relegation boom !!
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| Quote ="cosmicat"True so forget any dreams of ever getting into the top eight . its the middle eight or relegation boom !!'"
Steady on, let's settle for middle 8.
Relegation is a long way off.
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| The bloke for the job is Andy Kelly, I know he's at Huddersfield but he's Wakefield through and through. Nobody would command respect around the place better and he's also spent years in youth development so understands how important that is too.
It'd be an opportunity for Trinity to right a wrong of many years back as well
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| Quote ="The Avenger"The bloke for the job is Andy Kelly, I know he's at Huddersfield but he's Wakefield through and through. Nobody would command respect around the place better and he's also spent years in youth development so understands how important that is too.
It'd be an opportunity for Trinity to right a wrong of many years back as well'"
They didn't do Paul Harkin many favours either, round about this time.
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"They didn't do Paul Harkin many favours either, round about this time.'"
Are you suggesting we should employ Paul Harkin as 1st team coach?
He was never really the coach before and hasn't coached in the 30 years since
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Are you suggesting we should employ Paul Harkin as 1st team coach?
He was never really the coach before and hasn't coached in the 30 years since'"
They were co- coaches as I remember.
Seemed to be doing ok with Kelly but obviously maybe thought it wasn't worth the hassle.
Kelly is used to the shenanigans at Wakey, where Harkin wasn't!
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"They were co- coaches as I remember.
Seemed to be doing ok with Kelly but obviously maybe thought it wasn't worth the hassle.
Kelly is used to the shenanigans at Wakey, where Harkin wasn't!'"
They were co coaches and interestingly they also had Nobby on the staff but sacked him mid season.
Kelly and Harkin were both removed in favour of Mitch Brennan, Kelly was then appointed as Assistant. When Brennan was sacked Kelly took the job no one wanted, Trinity were a very poor mid to lower table 2nd Division team.
If I remember correctly the following season Kelly took us to the Grand Final and we won our place in SL.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"They were co coaches and interestingly they also had Nobby on the staff but sacked him mid season.
Kelly and Harkin were both removed in favour of Mitch Brennan, Kelly was then appointed as Assistant. When Brennan was sacked Kelly took the job no one wanted, Trinity were a very poor mid to lower table 2nd Division team.
If I remember correctly the following season Kelly took us to the Grand Final and we won our place in SL.'"
Not here to argue with you, just pointing out what I remember.
You know a bit more than me, possibly due to the fact you have a few years on me.
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| Great bloke Andy Kelly coached my son at Northumbria university topman !!
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| Quote ="The Avenger"
If I remember correctly the following season Kelly took us to the Grand Final and we won our place in SL.'"
To be fair though he did have a cracking team in comparison to the rest of the division. Adam Hughes, Sonny Wakarue, Garen Casey and our Aussie captain who's name escapes me plus many others.
Think Andy showed his strengths more that 1st season in Super League. It was sad that he was the 1st scapegoat of the Pearman fiasco.
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"Not here to argue with you, just pointing out what I remember.
You know a bit more than me, possibly due to the fact you have a few years on me.
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Not arguing mate, I'm agreeing with you.
Just chatting
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"To be fair though he did have a cracking team in comparison to the rest of the division. Adam Hughes, Sonny Wakarue, Garen Casey and our Aussie captain who's name escapes me plus many others.
Think Andy showed his strengths more that 1st season in Super League. It was sad that he was the 1st scapegoat of the Pearman fiasco.'"
Matt Fuller
We weren't the only good team around though, Featherstone with Gary Price, Ty Fallon, Richard Slater, Chico Jackson, Asa Amone, Carl Hall, Karl Pratt weren't bbad and Hull KR had Stanley Gene etc
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Matt Fuller
We weren't the only good team around though, Featherstone with Gary Price, Ty Fallon, Richard Slater, Chico Jackson, Asa Amone, Carl Hall, Karl Pratt weren't bbad and Hull KR had Stanley Gene etc'"
Matt Fuller turned out to be a really good signing.
After he came back from being on loan at Bramley.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Matt Fuller
We weren't the only good team around though, Featherstone with Gary Price, Ty Fallon, Richard Slater, Chico Jackson, Asa Amone, Carl Hall, Karl Pratt weren't bbad and Hull KR had Stanley Gene etc'"
Asa Amone. My favourite Fev player ever.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Asa Amone. My favourite Fev player ever.
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Is Nick Oddy your favourite referee ever as well
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Is Nick Oddy your favourite referee ever as well'"
More so the eagle eyed linesman.
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