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| Let me just state, I am thrilled about the developement, however, not a liker of plastic pitches, they do wear & discolour, they do
Have to be replaced, that is a significant cost when replacement is required !!!
However, we know the advantages, especially no costs of watering, feeding, re-seeding, rolling etc,
Also, I am not so keen to loose history , but things move on, etc, etc.
We will have to hope our players adapt well on proper turf when used to plastic & different studs + judgement ???
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| Quote ="TrinTrin"Let me just state, I am thrilled about the developement, however, not a liker of plastic pitches, they do wear & discolour, they do
Have to be replaced, that is a significant cost when replacement is required !!!
However, we know the advantages, especially no costs of watering, feeding, re-seeding, rolling etc,
Also, I am not so keen to loose history , but things move on, etc, etc.
We will have to hope our players adapt well on proper turf when used to plastic & different studs + judgement ???'"
I have never liked these pitches but I’m an old timer and things move on, but I once spoke to Jordan after a Widnes game regarding the pitch and was taken back when he said he preferred it so what do I know
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"I have never liked these pitches but I’m an old timer and things move on, but I once spoke to Jordan after a Widnes game regarding the pitch and was taken back when he said he preferred it so what do I know
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Out with the old, in with the new old boy, if it was up to your lot we would still be watching 3 channels in black and white
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"I have never liked these pitches but I’m an old timer and things move on, but I once spoke to Jordan after a Widnes game regarding the pitch and was taken back when he said he preferred it so what do I know
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Always seemed to play well v Widnes at their place on the plastic pitch. Didn’t go well against London, twice last season on their plastic pitch. I guess it not what you play on, but how well you perform on such pitches. Some fans used to say Widnes had an unfair advantage when playing at home because of the plastic pitch. That really wasn’t the case was it. Our groundsman will need to take a refresher course in ground maintenance.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Out with the old, in with the new old boy, if it was up to your lot we would still be watching 3 channels in black and white
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| Having played American Football on 3G, 4G & Grass pitches, I can say that 4G is miles ahead of 3G and not that far behind grass in terms of comfort. I believe Widnes is a 3G pitch, which is where you get the rubber crumb balls on the surface (A teammate of mine once got some of those stuck behind their eyeball, that was not a pleasant injury) whereas 4G doesn't need them. It may need to be watered pre-game during summer to reduce friction burns, but other than that it's as good as a good grass pitch.
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| Quote ="CM Punk"Having played American Football on 3G, 4G & Grass pitches, I can say that 4G is miles ahead of 3G and not that far behind grass in terms of comfort. I believe Widnes is a 3G pitch, which is where you get the rubber crumb balls on the surface (A teammate of mine once got some of those stuck behind their eyeball, that was not a pleasant injury) whereas 4G doesn't need them. It may need to be watered pre-game during summer to reduce friction burns, but other than that it's as good as a good grass pitch.'"
Thanks, it's interesting. From what I gather these pitches vary greatly, some 4G pitches are Hybrid and contain a percentage of grass, which apparently stops the friction burns.
I think the technology has improved dramatically in recent years. If the players like it and they seem to then a pitch that can be used all the time is a no brainer.
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| If there arent many clubs playing on this surface, we should increase our home advantage, which has to be a major plus
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"If there arent many clubs playing on this surface, we should increase our home advantage, which has to be a major plus
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Well, that's the beauty of it, we can train on it every day all year round as long as we want. I assume only snow or severe ice might stop you. It would definitely give us an advantage if we are good enough to use it.
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| Most premiership pitch’s are 4g now perfect
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| I seem to remember nothing but complaints about the pitch at Widnes and players receiving quite a lot of injuries.
Don't think you can beat a well kept grass pitch.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"I seem to remember nothing but complaints about the pitch at Widnes and players receiving quite a lot of injuries.
Don't think you can beat a well kept grass pitch.'"
The Widnes pitch is a number of years old and things have improved dramatically in that time
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| Quote ="lampyboy"I seem to remember nothing but complaints about the pitch at Widnes and players receiving quite a lot of injuries.
Don't think you can beat a well kept grass pitch.'"
That was a 3G pitch, this is a 4G pitch, completely different. Out of interest have you ever played on a 4G pitch? If not how do you know a grass pitch is better?
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"That was a 3G pitch, this is a 4G pitch, completely different. Out of interest have you ever played on a 4G pitch? If not how do you know a grass pitch is better?'"
True, I think the main difference is the filler, 3g pitches have these little rubber pellets that are hard on the old knees, I have played on a 4G pitch and they are world apart.
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| Never played on 3g or 4g it was always grass in my day. Progress or not I stand by my injury comment at Widnes, TURNED ANCLES AS I REMEMBER.
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| Isn't 4G out-dated now....I thought we were now on 5G ???
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Never played on 3g or 4g it was always grass in my day. Progress or not I stand by my injury comment at Widnes, TURNED ANCLES AS I REMEMBER.'"
Again that was because it's a 3G pitch, not a 4G, although it's a long time since I've heard any complaints about their pitch. It caused a bit of a storm at the time but Widnes don't appear to have any more injuries than anyone else so I suspect it was overblown at the time. BV a great pitch but it does cut up in the wet snd csn be rock hard in summer regardless of how green it appears. It's a shame but its loss is a worthwhile sacrifice imho.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Again that was because it's a 3G pitch, not a 4G, although it's a long time since I've heard any complaints about their pitch. It caused a bit of a storm at the time but Widnes don't appear to have any more injuries than anyone else so I suspect it was overblown at the time. BV a great pitch but it does cut up in the wet snd csn be rock hard in summer regardless of how green it appears. It's a shame but its loss is a worthwhile sacrifice imho.'"
Going back a number of years our playing surface was best in the league bar none, I think our grounds man went elsewhere (for some reason I want to say he went to work for Wigan Athletic & Warriors but not too sure). Still, our pitch is probably about Average now, I think in 10 years time every playing surface in pro sport will be artificial which in a way is a shame but I guess we have to move with the times!
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| It allows the club to generate extra income for use of the pitch and it would be wonderful to see ourselves as a club with a decent income for a change. For me, that is reason enough to put up with the presence of different lines for different sports, as per Toronto.
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| My only reservation is that the two teams that used them in super league both got relegated so didnt do their playing style any good
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| Unfortunately it’s a no brainer isn’t it. I like grass always have and we all know that Bellevue has by far one of the best grass pitches of all the grounds around. But grass has its limitations. How many games a year can the pitch take? Certainly not a 12 month a year week in week out program. So unless we want to stick to a trinity only stadium then 4g it has to be.
The stadium has to be able to fulfil its commercial potential, let’s say that at some point we did get relegated (Never going to happen) then we’d be playing in a over the top, shell of a ground with little to no income/support. Then at least the stadium would hopefully be able to finance itself through other sports fixtures and not become a huge burden to the club like it has in the past. I don’t remember the council buying the ground off us originally (70’s/80’s) I think because it was making trinity too much money?
We will get used to the 4g and in a generation nobody will remember the grass. For me it’s all about being here in another generation and I think this will do that.
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| Quote ="CM Punk"Having played American Football on 3G, 4G & Grass pitches, I can say that 4G is miles ahead of 3G and not that far behind grass in terms of comfort. I believe Widnes is a 3G pitch, which is where you get the rubber crumb balls on the surface (A teammate of mine once got some of those stuck behind their eyeball, that was not a pleasant injury) whereas 4G doesn't need them. It may need to be watered pre-game during summer to reduce friction burns, but other than that it's as good as a good grass pitch.'"
Widnes’ is and always has been a 4G pitch since the grass was ripped up.
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| Quote ="comeontrinity"Unfortunately it’s a no brainer isn’t it. I like grass always have and we all know that Bellevue has by far one of the best grass pitches of all the grounds around. But grass has its limitations. How many games a year can the pitch take? Certainly not a 12 month a year week in week out program. So unless we want to stick to a trinity only stadium then 4g it has to be.
The stadium has to be able to fulfil its commercial potential, let’s say that at some point we did get relegated (Never going to happen) then we’d be playing in a over the top, shell of a ground with little to no income/support. Then at least the stadium would hopefully be able to finance itself through other sports fixtures and not become a huge burden to the club like it has in the past. I don’t remember the council buying the ground off us originally (70’s/80’s) I think because it was making trinity too much money?
We will get used to the 4g and in a generation nobody will remember the grass. For me it’s all about being here in another generation and I think this will do that.'"
Wonder why Aussies haven't gone for 3g4g still artificial wonder if it's owt that rugby and soccer play on grass
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Widnes’ is and always has been a 4G pitch since the grass was ripped up.'" didn't widnes pitch have rubber crumb if so it would of been 3g
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