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| After attending the last meeting with james and andrew,and listening with regard to taking time to selecting the right man.Iv just read we have signed ellis,but was told yesterday[rumour i know i know that the club were to announce a few more very shortly.Just wondered about assembling a new squad, then a coach, and then saying here's your players for next season.Surely after all this we should let the new coach select his own or, its the old there not my players, i inherited them my hands are tied.Or do they already know the coach and are buying on his advice? any thoughts!
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| Quote ="TALLYWACKER"After attending the last meeting with james and andrew,and listening with regard to taking time to selecting the right man.Iv just read we have signed ellis,but was told yesterday[rumour i know i know that the club were to announce a few more very shortly.Just wondered about assembling a new squad, then a coach, and then saying here's your players for next season.Surely after all this we should let the new coach select his own or, its the old there not my players, i inherited them my hands are tied.Or do they already know the coach and are buying on his advice? any thoughts!'"
Having just read the article ref: Tongia signing, the very same thoughts went thro' my head.
As much as I welcome signings that don't view BV as a retirement home, I would have thought
a coach should be our next signing, or as you say, do we, the club, know him already.
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| Linked with peter gentle in the mirror this morn i believe
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| Quote ="LG83"Linked with peter gentle in the mirror this morn i believe'"
More mentioned as a possible than linked.
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| I strongly suspect that the new coach is advising in the background.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"More mentioned as a possible than linked.
[urlhttp://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-league/2011/08/05/justin-morgan-on-wanted-list-as-he-confirms-departure-from-hull-kr-115875-23320883/[/url'"
Ta, had a text this morn
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| Quote ="bren2k"I strongly suspect that the new coach is advising in the background.'"
I am sure Andrew Glover will have had someone in place for some time.
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| If the new coach is having an influence on the signings, then surely he must be talking with George, Morrison, Hyde etc
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| Elston said they are talking to George's agent and doing all they can to re-sign him
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| like the sound of peter gentle, could be just the man for us, but i wonder why he didn't get the salford job after been the favourite for so long?
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| Quote ="jonh"I am sure Andrew Glover will have had someone in place for some time.'"
Your probably right depending on the outcome of the franchise application.
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| Quote ="miamivice"like the sound of peter gentle, could be just the man for us, but i wonder why he didn't get the salford job after been the favourite for so long?'"
He comes with rather large wage demands by all accounts.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"He comes with rather large wage demands by all accounts.'"
Got a good pedigree though - could be the man to transform WTW.
Interestingly, he coached the U20's at Wests prior to getting the assistant job, suggesting that he knows how to develop young players; that has to be a big plus for us?
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| Quote ="miamivice"like the sound of peter gentle, could be just the man for us, but i wonder why he didn't get the salford job after been the favourite for so long?'"
I think Salford wanted a coach asap - as demonstrated by the appointment some weeks ago while Gentle
[url=http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/rugby_league/salford_reds/s/1421924_peter-gentle-in-line-to-be-salfords-new-coachwanted to honour his contract to the season end[/url
[url=http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/rugby_league/s/1422086_salford-reds-set-to-make-peter-gentle-appointmentHe is assistant coach for The Kangaroos[/url
[url=http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/HULL-KR-Australia-s-Peter-Gentle-keen-succeed/story-13075855-detail/story.htmlHULL KR May Be Favourites[/url
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| i had just read that about him been assistant coach of the national team.
sounds better by the minute.
don't want to get too excited about this, but he fits the bill exactly regarding who and what i want as coach.
he will be talking to ellis about us as well, ,+ if he knows the national team as well he may be able to get a couple of them over here......
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| We are not actually linked to Gentle though. The article says Cas are linked, and we have a vacancy too.
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That was in May - they have since appointed Matt Parish.
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| ... I'll get my coat !!!!
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| in fairness to the club. the players that have signed.... ellis masselot and tongia, tongia has only signed for the last 4 games of this season currently, and masselot isnt going to be a first choice, he will be a fringe player playing reserves pushing for a place. only ellis that i would consider would be a first teameer of the three, and given his reviews, i think most coaches would have him.
so i dont really think its an issue of coach before players. although i would like a coach first so that that excuse cant be banded around. the sooner one is announced, the sooner we can get on with new signings. perhaps next seasons coach is currently at another club and doesnt want to unsettle his players ?
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| To be honest I get the impression it's a British or British based coach.
Peter Gentle sounds very good but I seriously doubt he would sign Ellis or Wilkes because I doubt they would even be on his radar. If they are then he is seriously thorough in his research.
To me there is someone pulling the strings at the club who understands the British game. He is able to tap in to that core of British players who make up the hard working journeyman class. Good players but not star players.
If this is not the case and it is someone from the NRL then someone is advising him who to go for to match the new guys requirements. I've mentioned him before though I have no proof these signings have Steve Ferres or someone like fingerprints all over them.
Jimmy and Steve worked together for a long time but not sure if they got on well at the end.
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| Quote ="vastman"To be honest I get the impression it's a British or British based coach.
Peter Gentle sounds very good but I seriously doubt he would sign Ellis or Wilkes because I doubt they would even be on his radar. If they are then he is seriously thorough in his research.
To me there is someone pulling the strings at the club who understands the British game. He is able to tap in to that core of British players who make up the hard working journeyman class. Good players but not star players.
[uIf this is not the case and it is someone from the NRL then someone is advising him who to go for to match the new guys requirements. I've mentioned him before though I have no proof these signings have Steve Ferres or someone like fingerprints all over them[/u.
Jimmy and Steve worked together for a long time but not sure if they got on well at the end.'"
I thought the same thing
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| Quote ="vastman"To be honest I get the impression it's a British or British based coach.
Peter Gentle sounds very good but I seriously doubt he would sign Ellis or Wilkes because I doubt they would even be on his radar. If they are then he is seriously thorough in his research.
To me there is someone pulling the strings at the club who understands the British game. He is able to tap in to that core of British players who make up the hard working journeyman class. Good players but not star players.
If this is not the case and it is someone from the NRL then someone is advising him who to go for to match the new guys requirements. I've mentioned him before though I have no proof these signings have Steve Ferres or someone like fingerprints all over them.
Jimmy and Steve worked together for a long time but not sure if they got on well at the end.'"
Have seen JE and SF quite a few times together this season on match days at Belle Vue.
What you say makes a lot of sense.
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