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| Haven't seen one of these threads maybe because it's so hard to predict but I thought having just seen the predictions in the Daily Star (not my paper I hasten to add) I thought I'd put them in here to see what peoples thoughts were.
Just had a quick look so not sure who has done the predictions but they have it like this:
St Helens
Wigan
Leeds
Warrington
Huddersfield
Salford
Hull FC
Hull KR
Catalans
Widnes
Wakefield
Bradford
Castleford
London
I was quite surprised to see them putting Catalans out of the 8 and to see Cas in 13th. Anyone else think they've got it wrong??
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| Millward has on Sporting Life website:
Warrington
St Helens
Leeds
Huddersfield
Wigan
Catalans
Hull KR
Salford
Hull FC
Bradford
Widnes
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| Guardian:
Leeds
Warrington
Huddersfield
St Helens
Wigan
Salford
Hull KR
Castleford
Catalans
Widnes
Hull FC
Bradford
Wakefield
London
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| Mirror:
Warrington
Wigan
Huddersfield
St Helens
Leeds
Hull FC
Salford
Catalans
Castleford
Hull KR
Widnes
Wakefield
Bradford
London
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| Sky Sports (clearly a joke by Phil Clarke)
Salford
Warrington
Leeds
Wigan
St Helens
Huddersfield
Hull FC
Catalans
Widnes
Hull KR
Castleford
Bradford
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| they're hilarious aren't they! I've seen Cas from 13th to 7th in these things.
The upshot of that??? -------> they haven't got the foggiest.
Ultimately, recent years have shown that it only takes a run of good/bad form in 7/8 games to transform a season.
You guys came from 12th to 8th 2 years ago, and last year we lost 8/8 under millward and were bottom at half way.
Anybody outside the top 8 this year could slip away, and considering injuries play a big part in our game, I'd say there are 11 teams capable of being in the top 8 and 6 teams capable of getting relegated
Cas are the prime example. If they finished 8th I wouldn't see it as a major surprise, although similarly if they finished 13th....
Same with Bradford and Widnes... Although the former are having twitchy sphincters over their squad now, Carvell to Hull sounds like a done deal
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| People seem to rate Widnes more highly than I do.
We'll see I guess
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| I think they're squad retetion has been second to none Pop's, hence how I can't see them doing any worse than last year... that being said, it only takes a poor run to be sucked right in
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"I think they're squad retetion has been second to none '"
Probably because most other clubs wouldn't want their players?
They had Hock for a bit of X-Factor last year, if they miss Hanbury for any long spells they will really struggle imo
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| maybe so, maybe so. I think Hanbury is the only player I'd REALLY like to have
Looking at their squad it's not got much OOMPH .....it's a bit like ours only without the depth.
It's probably not the best place to say this for obvious reasons, but I would exect my team to be well away from 13th this year. Not so much becuase we look anything special, but Widnes look very average, and there are 3 teams who have had a woeful winter in comparison...
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| I think that on paper London and Wakefield look very very very weak and will be cut adrift from the rest very early into the season. Cant see either team winning a game except against each other. So the relegation dog fight that everyone is looking for to give meaningfull games will not happen. I do think that the fight for the 6th 7th and 8th spots will be interesting and will involve several teams. It is obvious that Wigan, Warrington, Saints, Leeds and Hudds will be in the top five, Catalans , Salford , Hull, Cas and Hull KR look slightly stronger than Widnes but Widnes are very well coached by Denis Betts and have the Wigan connection, if Bradford retain all their players then they will be in the mix, so hopefully we will have these 7 teams fighting tooth and nail for three places. should be very exciting except if you are a london or Wakey fan.
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| I don't think we will do as badly as you think and I think we are way ahead of London at this stage.
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| The Castleford squad looks good to me. Not sure why Catalan are getting the bird (not Dion or Greg) but I have a feeling in my water that if things go down the slope at the iconic stadium, there may be other players worth a punt to predators. Sammut may still happen. 11th place for mine.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"I think that on paper London and Wakefield look very very very weak and will be cut adrift from the rest very early into the season. Cant see either team winning a game except against each other. So the relegation dog fight that everyone is looking for to give meaningfull games will not happen. I do think that the fight for the 6th 7th and 8th spots will be interesting and will involve several teams. It is obvious that Wigan, Warrington, Saints, Leeds and Hudds will be in the top five, Catalans , Salford , Hull, Cas and Hull KR look slightly stronger than Widnes but Widnes are very well coached by Denis Betts and have the Wigan connection, if Bradford retain all their players then they will be in the mix, so hopefully we will have these 7 teams fighting tooth and nail for three places. should be very exciting except if you are a london or Wakey fan.'"
Well as usual you've written you're own side off, so that means will do OK then.
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| Quote ="PopTart"People seem to rate Widnes more highly than I do.
We'll see I guess'"
No I'm not convinced by Widnes either.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"I think that on paper London and Wakefield look very very very weak and will be cut adrift from the rest very early into the season. Cant see either team winning a game except against each other. So the relegation dog fight that everyone is looking for to give meaningfull games will not happen. I do think that the fight for the 6th 7th and 8th spots will be interesting and will involve several teams. It is obvious that Wigan, Warrington, Saints, Leeds and Hudds will be in the top five, Catalans , Salford , Hull, Cas and Hull KR look slightly stronger than Widnes but Widnes are very well coached by Denis Betts and have the Wigan connection, if Bradford retain all their players then they will be in the mix, so hopefully we will have these 7 teams fighting tooth and nail for three places. should be very exciting except if you are a london or Wakey fan.'"
Wow, I think you are a long way off with Wakefield not winning a game.
We might not be top 8 but we will beat some teams, I am confident in that.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Wow, I think you are a long way off with Wakefield not winning a game.
We might not be top 8 but we will beat some teams, I am confident in that.'"
Didn't even notice the won't win a game bit, like you say wow, just wow. It's his peroative but it's a regular thing since I joined anyway is for Belly to talk his team down and others up.
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| Let people write us off, like they always do. Still, no wooden spoon for us (yet)
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"I think that on paper London and Wakefield look very very very weak and will be cut adrift from the rest very early into the season. Cant see either team winning a game except against each other. So the relegation dog fight that everyone is looking for to give meaningfull games will not happen. I do think that the fight for the 6th 7th and 8th spots will be interesting and will involve several teams. It is obvious that Wigan, Warrington, Saints, Leeds and Hudds will be in the top five, Catalans , Salford , Hull, Cas and Hull KR look slightly stronger than Widnes but Widnes are very well coached by Denis Betts and have the Wigan connection, if Bradford retain all their players then they will be in the mix, so hopefully we will have these 7 teams fighting tooth and nail for three places. should be very exciting except if you are a london or Wakey fan.'"
We've not even seen our imports such as Godinet,Anderson and Ryan play for us so how can we make that judgement? Godinet looked good in RLWC2013.
Plus we've probably got Siejka coming at the end of the month. I'd like us to keep Lee Smith for depth in the backs plus him and Collis should go well together barring injury.
I'm not expecting top 8 but you never know...we've some reason to be positive from what we've got on paper. I'd love it if we beat Salford... Could you see RA doing this?.....
Removed, no links to youtube thanks.
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| Not bothered about the top as we won't be involved, so:
9. Wakefield Trinity
10. Hull Kingston Rovers
11. Widnes
12. Castleford
13. Bradford
14. London
Think it might take us a week or two to get going but I've got a feeling we'll surprise a few.
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| I'm not a massive fan of Lee smith but he was an experienced centre and I didn't realise how good a kicker he was until last year. We would have beaten Wigan at home last year if he had stayed on the pitch. I just think it is far too late in the day to be losing a player of his ilk. However, MC said there is players still to come in so what do I know. There could be a more than capable replacement already lined up. As plenty of people have pointed out smith never really seemed to really be bend his back for the team.
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| I don't see how people can write us off when they haven't even seen our new players in action yet and they all seem to a decent pedigree. Those 10 to 13 spots look hard to call with us in there somewhere. I'm still not convinced by this strength in depth which Cas are talking about. Their best signing imho is the coach Powell.
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| Quote ="LyndsayGill"Not bothered about the top as we won't be involved, so:
9. Wakefield Trinity
10. Hull Kingston Rovers
11. Widnes
12. Castleford
13. Bradford
14. London
Think it might take us a week or two to get going but I've got a feeling we'll surprise a few.'"
I think you are correct with these clubs filling the bottom 6 spots but, the million dollar question will be the final league standings.
I actually think that Cas and KR will be better than the other 4 so, bottom 4 as follows:
Widnes
Wakefield
Bradford
London
The season will be uncomfortable viewing, just as Kear's last season in charge and expect plenty of rants and scapegoats.
The Bulls do still seem in some disarray and for us to escape the drop, we need this to get worse AND for them to lose a few players.
Batten down the hatches and lets hope we can escape the drop.
Come on Trin !
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| Cas will be fine as will bulls if they don't lose any players. I think we will struggle for 12-13 games then start to click and will finish 11th.
Wakey
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