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| Jacob Miller says the Wakey club will always be close ro his heart no matter what happens. He goes on to say that his 2 young children have been born in Wakefield so it's not going to be eraised from his memory.
WP xays Jacob will make a decision based on what's best for him, but he hopes he stays.
WP also says a club like Wakefield must stay within its budget.
O do the club value Jacob and are prepared to push the boat out a little to keep him in the red white and blue,
I hope so because any replacement will not come cheap.
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| Its probably the last really good contract he will have in his career so he has to put his family first and get the most he can.
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| Those are the words of a player leaving a club.
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| Sounds like he is on his way in my opinion .
Hope the Luke Gale rumour is horlicks
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| I know realism is what well received on the forum but in my opinion I think
Miller - gone
Batchelor- gone
TJ - gone
Fifita- don’t know but he only signed his last contract following the interjection of Miller
Lino - will only leave with the club’s blessing which will either be for a transfer or to reduce the playing budget or both.
Tanginoa - same as Lino.
I suppose we will know soon enough and I am sure many will disagree.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Sounds like he is on his way in my opinion .
Hope the Luke Gale rumour is horlicks'"
Me too
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I know realism is what well received on the forum but in my opinion I think
Miller - gone
Batchelor- gone
TJ - gone
Fifita- don’t know but he only signed his last contract following the interjection of Miller
Lino - will only leave with the club’s blessing which will either be for a transfer or to reduce the playing budget or both.
Tanginoa - same as Lino.
I suppose we will know soon enough and I am sure many will disagree.'"
Why is that realism?
It's guesswork at best, based on a negative agenda towards Wakefield.
Some may be right, but you don't know right now so you?
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| Quote ="PopTart"Why is that realism?
It's guesswork at best, based on a negative agenda towards Wakefield.
Some may be right, but you don't know right now so you?'"
But just consider if he is right, and by the way from what I hear he is Bang on , maybe only one out.
Then look at who is staying , we have Hall and Murphey which is great.
We have a bunch of average players ,many well into their twilight years,
Then we have Hood Gaskill and Lineham
As far as additions, every other SL side seems to be getting well sorted , all we are hearing is Taylor and Gale.
I dont know about you, but I find it quite depressing and uninspiring .
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"But just consider if he is right, and by the way from what I hear he is Bang on , maybe only one out.
Then look at who is staying , we have Hall and Murphey which is great.
We have a bunch of average players ,many well into their twilight years,
Then we have Hood Gaskill and Lineham
As far as additions, every other SL side seems to be getting well sorted , all we are hearing is Taylor and Gale.
I dont know about you, but I find it quite depressing and uninspiring .'"
Taylor . Don’t throw another random player in, I check news outlets daily and Taylor has not been mentioned. Nobody as far as I see has mentioned Gale either and certainly nothing credible.
Quite the opposite there has been no hints or suggestions coming out of the club about signings.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Taylor
. Don’t throw another random player in, I check news outlets daily and Taylor has not been mentioned. Nobody as far as I see has mentioned Gale either and certainly nothing credible.
Quite the opposite there has been no hints or suggestions coming out of the club about signings.'"
Sorry but Taylor from Salford mentioned many times including by WP.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Sorry but Taylor from Salford mentioned many times including by WP.'"
Ah sorry I was thinking the forward from hull. Apologies PB.
It was mentioned once in the build up to the Salford game and by WP that we are interested yes. I hope we don’t pursue that. The Salford game he looked their most ineffective forward.
We are likely going to have at least a handful of players come in so I think we will just have to wait and see before we judge.
For what it’s worth I think Miller, Batchelor have gone. But we will have to wait and see. It’s still too early to judge how next years team will look
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"But just consider if he is right, and by the way from what I hear he is Bang on , maybe only one out.
Then look at who is staying , we have Hall and Murphey which is great.
We have a bunch of average players ,many well into their twilight years,
Then we have Hood Gaskill and Lineham
As far as additions, every other SL side seems to be getting well sorted , all we are hearing is Taylor and Gale.
I dont know about you, but I find it quite depressing and uninspiring .'"
It's still a guess.
If any are to go it's would then allow more money to keep the others.
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| More money to keep who exactly poptart.
Its replacements thy will be required.
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| Quote ="PopTart"It's still a guess.
If any are to go it's would then allow more money to keep the others.'"
I am sorry but we have to face that our track record of signing new players is somewhat questionable. I actually hope none of them leave because I fear what may be brought in to replace them.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I am sorry but we have to face that our track record of signing new players is somewhat questionable. I actually hope none of them leave because I fear what may be brought in to replace them.'"
So a guess then?
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| Well unless I am their agent then yes it is my assumption based on the article from Miller and no mention either from the club or the players in respect of Batchelor and TJ.
I am sure if they were still in negotiations they would have said so. I wonder on what basis you believe them to be staying, is it the well worn fingers crossed or just blind faith.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Well unless I am their agent then yes it is my assumption based on the article from Miller and no mention either from the club or the players in respect of Batchelor and TJ.
I am sure if they were still in negotiations they would have said so. I wonder on what basis you believe them to be staying, is it the well worn fingers crossed or just blind faith.'"
I’m not convinced on TJ yet. It could be a case that his groin injury has de-railed a potential move. Also Yaha resigned for Catalans after TJ’s injury. Some teams willing to take a punt on him may not now be as keen. This may put us back in the driving seat for his signing. It’s all guesswork at the moment until something officials announced. TJ is my favourite player but if he goes I do rate Murphy too. It’s just a matter of waiting till somethings announced.
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| It must be difficult for players to commit to us when we are not 100% guaranteed to stay up, especially after last weeks shambolics. I genuinely wouldn’t feel badly on anyone wanting to leave to either progress their careers or for more money, it’s a short career. I’m sure things behind the scenes will be busy in regards to comings and goings. We need to be realistic with our transfer expectations, we have done ourselves no favours being in this position in the league, as we will be way down the pecking order of potential suitors for decent players, or suitable players for us. Hopefully news of 2023 squad will come out when we have more of a buffer over Toulouse, which we can make happen tomorrow (not feeling too confident) or Magic weekend.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Sounds like he is on his way in my opinion .
Hope the Luke Gale rumour is horlicks'"
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| A number of players are on inflated contracts and we need to get them back to a position where there is status-quo within the club regards a wage structure.
Miller is on a big wage probably more than he brings to the table and doesn’t want to drop from that so is rightly for him looking elsewhere.
Wakefield have to start making some tough decisions and do what is right for the club. If he wants more than we believe he is worth then he leaves and we look for a replacement.
We have been here before handing out contracts which simply do not provide value for money and we need to phase them out. As contracts wind down we have an opportunity to do that, but the key is obviously finding players to replace them that strengthen us across the park.
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| Quote ="jonh"A number of players are on inflated contracts and we need to get them back to a position where there is status-quo within the club regards a wage structure.
Miller is on a big wage probably more than he brings to the table and doesn’t want to drop from that so is rightly for him looking elsewhere.
Wakefield have to start making some tough decisions and do what is right for the club. If he wants more than we believe he is worth then he leaves and we look for a replacement.
We have been here before handing out contracts which simply do not provide value for money and we need to phase them out. As contracts wind down we have an opportunity to do that, but the key is obviously finding players to replace them that strengthen us across the park.'"
I do feel that investing in the academy and pathway to first team is the way forward medium to long term. I think the difficulty is the short term 1-3 years. As I said before though I can see us being much more attractive when the developments are complete.
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| I fear players contracts will be irrelivent as getting relegated will probably most will leave anyway.should we stay up i still think a clear out is needed too many players on good money (i assume)who if where honest dont produce on a regular basis which results show.
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| To many players on good money, we don't sighn players who should be any position to demand good money.
Trinity are and have been for some time the scrag end of sighning players and if there's any mofe than 4 /5players on SL money we deserve all we get.
If we do get relegated the club will be left with a number of over rated players who will in all honesty have to see out their contracts because no other club will want them.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"To many players on good money, we don't sighn players who should be any position to demand good money.
Trinity are and have been for some time the scrag end of sighning players and if there's any mofe than 4 /5players on SL money we deserve all we get.
If we do get relegated the club will be left with a number of over rated players who will in all honesty have to see out their contracts because no other club will want them.'"
IF we are relegated then it has been mentioned that players can leave because their contracts are only for SL rugby. Does it not work both ways i.e. the club can release players because it is no longer a SL club?
If not, it should, because it's down to some of those players that we're in this predicament.
If some of the players had played with heart in at least 4 games we should have won this season, things would be different, and it seems harsh that if we went down they would have to come with us!
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Well unless I am their agent then yes it is my assumption based on the article from Miller and no mention either from the club or the players in respect of Batchelor and TJ.
I am sure if they were still in negotiations they would have said so. I wonder on what basis you believe them to be staying, is it the well worn fingers crossed or just blind faith.'"
I’m not convinced on TJ yet. It could be a case that his groin injury has de-railed a potential move. Also Yaha resigned for Catalans after TJ’s injury. Some teams willing to take a punt on him may not now be as keen. This may put us back in the driving seat for his signing. It’s all guesswork at the moment until something officials announced. TJ is my favourite player but if he goes I do rate Murphy too. It’s just a matter of waiting till somethings announced.'"
In all honesty, I wouldn't be too concerned if he went really.
Yes, he is, in his day, a potential match winner. However, sadly his injury record is a concern, and he's only thst potential match winner when he's on the field.
I would imagine if we did try to keep him, he'd provably end up being one of our top earners.
Sadly, I think he averages something like 17 games a season. For me, with a club with our finances, you need your top earners yo be playing more games.
I'd rather be fighting hard to keep Batch, and be looking to replace Miller with a quality half back, maybe two if Lino goes as well
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