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| Great to see Wigan retain one of their younger lads, something we need to take note of.
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| We do, see Tom Johnstone and Max Jowitt.
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| And James Batchelor
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| "If I was MC i would be selling up on Max and TJ, I am sure there would be plenty of takers for TJ, he`s a half decent player but has not been the same player this season and seems to be on the decline, so we should cash in whilst we can otherwise we will be stuck with another young kid that is just not good enough for SL, paying his wages when they could be used elsewhere... we have MCB who is just as good! "
Can't remember who said this on another thread.
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| Quote ="Trinity18"Great to see Wigan retain one of their younger lads, something we need to take note of.'"
You are truly baffling sometimes, really.
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| Quote ="Trinity18"Great to see Wigan retain one of their younger lads, something we need to take note of.'"
There s me thinking you wanted to cash in on 2 of our younsters ??
Make you mind up
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| I’m expecting TJ to hit top form again in the coming summer months. Harsh thing to say after a long leg injury that he’s not back to his best. I’d certainly argue a case that the service hasn’t been putting him in the position to score try’s. When he’s been given the ball in space he has finished as well as any other winger in the league can.
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| prepare to be disapointed
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| Quote ="victarmeldrew"prepare to be disapointed'"
On what do you base that statement
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| Quote ="Trinity18"Great to see Wigan retain one of their younger lads, something we need to take note of.'"
So which is it? Sell or keep.
Stating two opposing views implies one of them is to just wind people up.
Trolling is often thrown as an insult when someone gas a view different to theirs but what you've dine, unless ice misunderstood is the exact definition of trolling.
Have I misunderstood your point somehow?
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| Quote ="lifelongfan"On what do you base that statement'"
Probably been looking in the mirror again for one of life’s greatest
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| Quote ="PopTart"So which is it? Sell or keep.
Stating two opposing views implies one of them is to just wind people up.
Trolling is often thrown as an insult when someone gas a view different to theirs but what you've dine, unless ice misunderstood is the exact definition of trolling.
Have I misunderstood your point somehow?'" At last you have awoken to what most on here have seen since it appeared.
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| Quote ="PopTart"So which is it? Sell or keep.
Stating two opposing views implies one of them is to just wind people up.
Trolling is often thrown as an insult when someone gas a view different to theirs but what you've dine, unless ice misunderstood is the exact definition of trolling.
Have I misunderstood your point somehow?'"
Think you have been quite fair, but you might see why a lot have him on ignore.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse":majr1fy9I’m expecting TJ to hit top form again in the coming summer months. Harsh thing to say after a long leg injury that he’s not back to his best. I’d certainly argue a case that the service hasn’t been putting him in the position to score try’s. When he’s been given the ball in space he has finished as well as any other winger in the league can.'"
Hopefully he will but with Bill and Reece as his centres who knows. But their the popular choice.especially now Arundel injured
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| Quote ="lifelongfan"Think you have been quite fair, but you might see why a lot have him on ignore.'"
It's a good facility to use.
I'd rather people did that than have the same argument over and over again with each other but it's a personal choice.
I often see accusations of trolling when it is simply a view that someone doesn't agree with.
The AUP is clear. State your case as you believe it and let others comment. If you post something you don't actually believe to be true just to start an argument or upset someone, then it's trolling and I can deal with that.
If I just banned everyone who's point I don't agree with we'd have a pretty small group.
For this post I've pointed out the error. We can leave it at that.
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| Umm... I agree it does look very “trolling” like however let me defend myself. I still stand by what I said about Max, i don’t rate the lad and think we should cash in, you’re all entitled to your opinion. I take back what I said about Johnstone, i was getting a bit carried away with the $$$ on my mind. Go back a few pages when I first posted my opionion on MJ and I’ll reiterate, I think Hooley deserves a shot. There are a few lads who in a few years time could very well be where Gildart is today I cannot however see this with Jowitt.
You guys need to stop jumping the gun as many have ended up with egg on your face, just because I said what I said a few days ago doesn’t mean the meaning behind my comment on this thread cannot be justified.
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| Just a quick one on the back of that, I probably should have elaborated a little initially so, apologies.
And for all the people with me on ignore, don’t hate me cause you ain’t me
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| You can't have a go at people for not liking your post when you do a complete reversal when you are called out. You included TJ and Crowther and only took it back when challenged on your contradicting post. Think it through before posting like that.
As for Max and Jordan I don't disagree that they won't be a Gildart in future......but we wont be selling them anywhere. If they were good enough to command a fee we wouldn't be having the conversation.
We need a squad and I don't mind either as back up. They are more than capable. If we decide other youngsters coming through are better, they just won't get a renewal.....but they have to be better.
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| Quote ="PopTart"You can't have a go at people for not liking your post when you do a complete reversal when you are called out. You included TJ and Crowther and only took it back when challenged on your contradicting post. Think it through before posting like that.
As for Max and Jordan I don't disagree that they won't be a Gildart in future......but we wont be selling them anywhere. If they were good enough to command a fee we wouldn't be having the conversation.
We need a squad and I don't mind either as back up. They are more than capable. If we decide other youngsters coming through are better, they just won't get a renewal.....but they have to be better.'"
I’m not doing a complete reversal though, I understand you have to retain young talent, talent being the key word. I’ve admitted now on several occasions, I was wrong about TJ... there’s nothing more I can say on that mate. I stand by what I said, Jowitt and Crowther should start looking for a championship deal to fall back on.
You’re right in what you’re saying, they’re at the club for a reason but I’m sure I used him as an example a few weeks back, Kyle Trout... probably a very similar skill set to Crowther (with Crowther slightly better in a defensive aspect) but it’ll end up the same in my eyes. Loan after loan and end up signing for Dewsbury or a mid table championship side, Jowitt might be able to set his sights slightly higher but not much.
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| Quote ="NEwildcat""If I was MC i would be selling up on Max and TJ, I am sure there would be plenty of takers for TJ, he`s a half decent player but has not been the same player this season and seems to be on the decline, so we should cash in whilst we can otherwise we will be stuck with another young kid that is just not good enough for SL, paying his wages when they could be used elsewhere... we have MCB who is just as good! "
Can't remember who said this on another thread.'"
Think you're very much in the minority there.
TJ is class but even the best winger in the world relies on good service and he has not been getting that!
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| Quote ="Trinity1315"Think you're very much in the minority there.
TJ is class but even the best winger in the world relies on good service and he has not been getting that!'"
You're reading it wrong. I think you'll find NEwildcat is quoting Trinity18.
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| Quote ="Trinity1315"Think you're very much in the minority there.
TJ is class but even the best winger in the world relies on good service and he has not been getting that!'"
I was quoting somebody else. I happen to agree with you.
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| The ignore button is fine but if 20 or so have 1 particular poster on ignore it should highlight a problem to the mods.
It still doesn't prevent that poster from displaying his drivel to many others.
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| Let me just put this a simple as I can, I wasn't trolling with what I posted. IMO we should be retaining young talent like -
Tom Johnstone - 4th time I've admitted I was wrong since the other day.
James Batchelor
Luke Hooley
Christian Ackroyd
I beleive we should be looking to offload young players like -
Jordan Crowther
Max Jowitt
As a great example - Chris Annakin... I like him, think he gives 110% every game and makes an impact on almost every run but 59 appearances after 7 years with the club is not good enough. Just think what we could have done with the money, even on one of the lower salaries it's still £200,000+
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| Trinity18 has just outed himself as a troll - our very own Chorley Jean.
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