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| Joint players' player of the year. Surprised with Scruton as I thought he had a slow start. Ryan was the coaches player of the year with Daniel Smith the rising star.
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| I guess we don't know how much Scruton does with the team and in training.
Players player is a great sign for him in the future.
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| Just listened to his interview and he sounds adamant that he has a lot more to come!
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"Just listened to his interview and he sounds adamant that he has a lot more to come!'"
Hopefully he will get back to how he was playing at Bradford. I still think he has a lot more to come.
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| Scruton lol. Tautai far and away better. So we give awards out for doing what you are ment to for 3 games all season. Scruton seems down to earth I bet he was embarrassed picking that up.
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| It's not just what he does in games it's what he does off the field too and we don't know all he does !!!!!!
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| NGB4C knows everything....
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Scruton lol. Tautai far and away better. So we give awards out for doing what you are ment to for 3 games all season. Scruton seems down to earth I bet he was embarrassed picking that up.'"
So you think you know better than the players who have trained 5/6 days a week with Ryan & Scruton?
You believe you know more than the players who sit in the dressing room with Ryan & Scruton before during and after matches and you understand their level of influence within the group.
You're privy to the conversations that Ryan & Scruton have with other players on a one to one basis, particularly the younger players who often need advice from a senior pro.
I guess you can hear what Ryan & Scruton are saying during matches when the games going away from us or when we're under the sticks having conceded a try.
How many 'Extras' sessions have you been to where Ryan & Scruton have pushed the lads on to another level with their drive and enthusiasm?
In Scrutons case, did you know that he's taken time out of his own busy schedule to voluntarily help mentor one of our Scholarship players who also suffers from Type 1 Diabetes like Scruton himself does.
Most of all I assume you've had regular reports from the club doctor and physio and are fully briefed on how many times Ryan & Scruton have played when suffering from injury because the team needed them.
Of all the stupid posts that regularly appear on this forum this one has to be one of the most ill informed and ridiculous ever!
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| Quote ="The Avenger"So you think you know better than the players who have trained 5/6 days a week with Ryan & Scruton?
You believe you know more than the players who sit in the dressing room with Ryan & Scruton before during and after matches and you understand their level of influence within the group.
You're privy to the conversations that Ryan & Scruton have with other players on a one to one basis, particularly the younger players who often need advice from a senior pro.
I guess you can hear what Ryan & Scruton are saying during matches when the games going away from us or when we're under the sticks having conceded a try.
How many 'Extras' sessions have you been to where Ryan & Scruton have pushed the lads on to another level with their drive and enthusiasm?
In Scrutons case, did you know that he's taken time out of his own busy schedule to voluntarily help mentor one of our Scholarship players who also suffers from Type 1 Diabetes like Scruton himself does.
Most of all I assume you've had regular reports from the club doctor and physio and are fully briefed on how many times Ryan & Scruton have played when suffering from injury because the team needed them.
Of all the stupid posts that regularly appear on this forum this one has to be one of the most ill informed and ridiculous ever!'"
He says there is more to come so that tells me he aint at his best, he was as suprised as me getting the award so save the lecture! Its a suprise dont need a long winded sob story.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"He says there is more to come so that tells me he aint at his best, he was as suprised as me getting the award so save the lecture! Its a suprise dont need a long winded sob story.'"
So his team mates are wrong and you're right, is that it?
Which bit of what I wrote isn't relevant, remembering this was a 'Players Player' award voted for by the players.
You are clueless as to the impact and contribution made by Scruton other than what you think you've seen on match days.
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| Nicks thumb was bust when he joined us. I was told he got a bollocking off the surgeon when he finally went in for the op. Says something about the guys character when he still put up his hand to play.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas" dont need a long winded sob story.'"
I wasn't going to react to this bit but it's got the better of me, are you implying that dealing with Type 1 Diabetes constitutes a "sob story"?
I hope not but if you are then you've plummeted to new depths of cretinous ignorance.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"I wasn't going to react to this bit but it's got the better of me, are you implying that dealing with Type 1 Diabetes constitutes a "sob story"?
I hope not but if you are then you've plummeted to new depths of cretinous ignorance.'"
Type 1 diabetis is a serious matter. All I am saying he was lucky to get players player from what I saw on the pitch he had 3 very good games and many average ones I know he can do better and Nick himself knows he can. ITs you whos twisted the argument saying he goes off to do this. So Nick maybe should have got community man of the year? Fair play that he does this.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"All I am saying he was lucky to get players player from what I saw on the pitch he had 3 very good games and many average ones I know he can do better and Nick himself knows he can.'"
Its not what you or I think or see on matchdays' The clue is in the title =#BF0000 players' player of the year and just in case it still has not sunk in players' as in plural ( more than one) that's a majority. HTH
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| NGB4C . Just admit you were wrong.
It's a player's player award. It's not judged on performance alone.
You clearly didn't read it and thought it was a different award.
Accept your error and move on.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Type 1 diabetis is a serious matter. All I am saying he was lucky to get players player from what I saw on the pitch he had 3 very good games and many average ones I know he can do better and Nick himself knows he can. ITs you whos twisted the argument saying he goes off to do this. So Nick maybe should have got community man of the year? Fair play that he does this.'"
Fair play that he does what?
He does the extras he does within the playing group (hence the 'Players Player' Award) with the exception of the Scholarship player but even then it's within the club so why a Community Award?
Goodness me!
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| I hadn't realised but Scruton also won man of steel. Is that not for the best player at the club? If that's the case I can see NGB4C's point of view. Whilst what he has apparently done off the pitch is very commendable, the actions on the pitch are what I would consider would count towards such an honour. He's been better in his latter games but by no means the stand out IMO. Ryan has been excellent for most of the season, Tautai, despite leaving at the end of the year has been impressive.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"I hadn't realised but Scruton also won man of steel. Is that not for the best player at the club? If that's the case I can see NGB4C's point of view. Whilst what he has apparently done off the pitch is very commendable, the actions on the pitch are what I would consider would count towards such an honour. He's been better in his latter games but by no means the stand out IMO. Ryan has been excellent for most of the season, Tautai, despite leaving at the end of the year has been impressive.'"
This is from the website -
"Scruton, also missing the end of the campaign due to surgery on a longstanding thumb injury, was awarded the Wildcats Man of Steel award. Scruton joined from Bradford Bulls early in the campaign and featured in every game prior to his surgery and has made over 400 metres more than any other Wildcats prop during the year"
Which is funny because i`m sure Tautai and Anderson must have made more meters than him?
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| Quote ="Wildcat26"This is from the website -
"Scruton, also missing the end of the campaign due to surgery on a longstanding thumb injury, was awarded the Wildcats Man of Steel award. Scruton joined from Bradford Bulls early in the campaign and featured in every game prior to his surgery and has made over 400 metres more than any other Wildcats prop during the year"
Which is funny because i`m sure Tautai and Anderson must have made more meters than him?'"
They have. Daniel Smith has played plenty of prop and has also made more.
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| Im pretty sure its by game basis. The club don't make stats up.
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| Well they struggle to count to 19 every week on the website when the squad news is released so four figure numbers is likely to be beyond them.
Meters by props this year...
Tautai 2112 (18 games)
Anderson 1656 (19 games)
Smith 1622 (18 games)
Scruton 1578 (22 games)
Moore 952 (15 games)
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| What did andy get?
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"What did andy get?'"
950 from 14 games.
Of the 6 main props this year Scrutons average gain is the lowest as well. He improved as the season went on no doubt but i guess the m.o.s. award shows his worth to the club as a whole rather than just on the field.
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| What a stupid argument - the players have obviously voted for Scruton for reasons we don't know about; maybe the fact he's overcome adversity influenced their decision?
Either way, it's impossible to argue with - it's a subjective opinion, and believe it or not, players value different things to fans!
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"I hadn't realised but Scruton also won man of steel. Is that not for the best player at the club? If that's the case I can see NGB4C's point of view. Whilst what he has apparently done off the pitch is very commendable, the actions on the pitch are what I would consider would count towards such an honour. He's been better in his latter games but by no means the stand out IMO. Ryan has been excellent for most of the season, Tautai, despite leaving at the end of the year has been impressive.'"
This!
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