I dont understand how more people didnt turn up last night. We had just as much chance of beating Leeds as we did last year, whgen the crowd was double (Even with James Elston's 'counting' it was packed to the rafters. Why arent people coming to the game? apart from if they have had some deadly juice taken off them by the stewards..

It was really dissapointing to see the amount of people there after the good results we have had and the team playing so well..

Still making pathetic excuses like I said earlier waiting for someone to put an arm round their shoulder and say ,come on back mate

so sad.

Some stay at homes and some work related or holidays but I fear it's apathy. They can't do more on the field so it's down to us now and I just hope the last 4 results will draw the crowds back.

It was a mixture of a few things that effected the Wakefield & leeds support. It's been a funny season what with our turmoil pre season, the Bradford points appeal appeal, no stadium news, but the players keep performance and fans stop moaning and good communication between club and fans and the crowds will get bigger and keep getting bigger.
TRINITY FOREVER
THE FUTURES GOOD

Didn go, watched on sky. However I am in London working.
The club seem to be working overtime to get stability, and marketing seems to have taken a back seat . Its also fair to say that a number of walk ins may be staying away, and just how many of the walk ins last season got free tickets .Its never been easy to get the wakey public behind the club and I think plenty of hard works required . MCs said in the past hes not sure about marketing and what if any benefits it brings to the club, only time will tell. A winning teams a good start for any promotions or marketing manager.

Last years game was during the school holidays and however inflated the 10,031 attendence may have been, you couldnt move in the ground so there was a LOT of people there..For there many, many, many faults Elston and Glover seemed to get people through the turnstyles, maybe through false economies but they did. I suppose the wider Wakefield public arent happy enough with the 'public image' of WTW, ridiculous really when the club with reguards balancing the books and value for money couldnt be better!

World Cup. TDF, game on TV. Poor turnout all round, very surprised how few travelled from Leeds. I am sure MC will be worried, as our attendances are well below what I am sure he forecasted which will have put his budgeting out for the season.

Time for us all to do our bit and get get behind the team starting with dragging your mates along on Thursday.

Sky being in attendance
World Cup
Tour de Yorkshire
Wimbledon
F1
General economics
Friday night game
Drifters are watching cas (for now)

A whole host of reasons
Agar fans have boycotted (negligible)

Mr bliss? Some of them excuses are laughable. Sky, naturally reduces the total.but f1? Isn't the race Sunday? Wimbledon?! Who actually won't go to a game to watch either no Brits play tennis or f1 practice?! Also who are these drifters watching Cas?! Stick with sky, apathy and damage done by agar. Webster deserves backing, done a good job, a lot of it was simple stuff fans were calling for months ago.

All been mentioned previously or similar.

It's either in your blood or not.
I was even thinking should I stay at home and watch on telly when it was peeing it down, due to the traffic I may encounter but left my house at 7:15 and was in the ground not much after 7:30.
I had lost the faith towards the back end of last season and was was really losing the will to live this season but Webster has invigorated my belief in the team.
Now is the perfect opportunity to get next years tickets on sale.
The Rhinos are sending out mailed items to get people to renew now for next year.

One of the biggest turn-offs for me is the game itself.Sky and the RFL are doing a great job of making the game unwatchable at times.All the usual facts about economics,game time changes,holidays,world cup, weather etc etc do play a part.But look at the facts.All the clubs are seeing sizeable drops in their average crowds and it's the once staunch support they are losing in there thousands.not just the drifters.
We are now accustomed to seeing most games played out on TV to scarcely populated grounds.
The RFL will have to be very careful because with the Yawnion World Cup approaching next year our game could be having the last rites performed on it.
I fear for the game!

Accountants always say that!

I'd say a marketing manager would be an astute investment about now - on a reasonable basic salary, but incentivised based on gate receipts; someone with a sports background and the right skills to produce a proper marketing plan - it could pay dividends. For various reasons, the Wakefield public have fallen out of love with WTW - someone with the right skills could find out why, and do something about it.

Excellent post highlighting key issues

I think we're overthinking it to be honest.

We have a crap stadium in which we've largely played crap rugby for most of the season, when we're on SKY, on Friday night and its raining meaning most fans will get wet then it's not hard to fathom why the crowd was low.

Wholeheartedly agree, I've gone from being a home and away wakey fan that went to wembley finals, GB games and watched other teams games on Sky.
I haven't been to a CC final or GB game for years, I rarely go to away games, sky got cancelled and when we were beating Wigan I was at Nostell Priory for armed forces day.
Fair enough life changes and circumstances/financial situations alter, but for me the root cause for much of my apathy is that as a Wakey fan I feel disenfranchised from the wider game.
I see a home Wakey match as a day or evening out with my mates more than the chance to watch "my" team pit their wits and skills against the best in the competition.
I think the game in general and our club could do much more to make the average fan feel more included and valued.
I used to think this was the greatest game, now I'm not so sure that people like me are part of the future of the game, if indeed the game has any kind of sustainable wider appeal.
Certainly recent events call that into question.

My sentiments exactly.

Or is this just superleague, do fans of teams in the Championship and Championship 1 feel apathy towards the game aswell?

Bit like kinleycat my self went to International/County games all away games even went to watch second division games Hunslet/Dewsbury/Batley if we didn't have a game.Now go to some away games but most home games missed Leeds game due to being away for the weekend but did get to watch it on sky.

One thing that seemed obvious over recent weeks is the fall in number of away fans. I am sure many away supporters see a visit to Agbrigg and Belle Vue as one of the less desirable away locations.


However ! what really gets me is the massive latent support the club have and somehow more people need to be encouraged to come along to games. After every game, two or three of us go into various pubs in our 'colours' and the amount of people asking about the match is amazing. If you go into a pub with say 40 or so customers more than half are interested how we have got on. The interest and affection for the team is out there, getting them to pay into the ground is more difficult.

I can fully agree with this. We always call in a few pubs on the walk home from the game and the number of people who ask what the score was is amazing. There are also a number of people who will join in discussion about the game but then reveal they watched it on Sky in town with a gallon of ale, a gallon of ale that would have probably cost the same as the entrance fee to Belle Vue.

When asked how we went on after a game and if we have won I start with"you missed a great game you should have been there" even if its not been a very good game all round.

Shows how many people only turned up because of cheap or free tickets. Loyalty eh? I personally know of people who only went cos they could buy cheap tickets

Talking of freebies, a mate of mine, who, up to this season had been an ST holder, has been to 3 games this year, all with freebie tickets, when asked where there from he wont say, but obviously there still out there.

I noticed there was a clamp down at turnstiles on Friday. People who had bought tickets for the Leeds game had to go in the correct turnstile number on the ticket. A family in front of us were trying to get in at the turnstile next to the Con club with a ticket they had bought but were told to go in the correct turnstile number on Donny Road. Obviously there was a disgruntled reply from the father but the steward replied something along the lines of ''it's so we can tally up the tickets sold correctly, I'll get a rollocking if there's an odd ticket at my turnstile''.

There must still be some issues with fraudulent tickets. If people having to go through corresponding turnstiles eradicates this then I say fair enough.