It appears or is reported that ganson entered the refs changing room at half time and gave ridiculous roby a right dressing down regarding his first half performance ? According to Mr agar

No doubt he'll have paid a second visit after the game because that second have performance was unacceptable

Is it a coincidence that we are six games played and the two we have won have been refereed by grade 1 officials that know the rules of the game. It also sounds like Childs had a stinker at Salford. The RFL need to get this sorted cos in the end the fans just won't turn up when they see which linesman is refereeing their game that week.

Whichever games Roby, Hicks or Childs referee I feel sorry for the teams involved.

Its a disgrace to our great sport that we have to endure such inept decision making. #corrupttothecore

Its a shame Ganson aint reffing anymore. He was the only ref that appeared not to be influenced in favour of the big teams. I am convinced that when they see Wakey winning against the big guns they think "they must be cheating" and accordingly begin to penalise us for laying on and offside - even though the big teams are doing exactly the same.

Are you mental!

On reflection it looks as though Ganson has rollocked Robey for not penalising Wakefield more leading to a 10-4 score line in favour of Wakefeld.

Mr Robey promptly came out for the second half and gives Wakey a nothing penalty inside their own 20 however Wakey go off script and score anther try. Mr Robey then ensures Sts get all the ball and field position they need in order to take a winning lead.

Ganson must have had Saints to win on his betting slip!

Don't like to knock refs by and large but he was garbage Rileys on the floor after being flattened by Wilkin and play continues for an age.Lomax slips backwards and its deemed an head high and the game stops instantly.He gives a crossing against us and Saints do it three times within a short time and nothing.Lomax clearly knocks on early in the first half and play goes on.Amor clearly throws a punch that was with full intent and its on report.Had a neutral watching next to us and he said what an idiot of a ref.

His son plays in the Saints U16's so there is obviously no conflict of interest there

His son plays for blackbrook in st Helen's where Ganson also helps out coaching.


Are you saying that young Ganson can't play for saints because his dad is part of the RFL refs?

No I think he's saying that where there's a potential for non impartiality, conscious or unconscious, then a referee shouldn't be involved in certain games.

Big question marks over your second half performance if anything. You rolled over too easily when we got some momentum.

Nice deflection from agar.

We didn't defend our try line well enough for me but defending for 15 minutes almost non stop will do that to you.

No deflection by Agar, Tim Robey was terrible and his view of the game favoured Sts in a big way.

The thing people are questioning though is how you gained that momentum....

Up to that spell I thought we outplayed you all over the park, then came the sequence....

Penalty - Try in next set - 3/4 good tackles - Penalty - Try in next set - 3/4 good tackles - Penalty - try in next set....etc.....they were soft penalties aswell....things he was ignoring when we had ball in hand and struggling to get out of our half....

If Saints had just upped their game and cut through us at will then fair enough....it's the fact that in that 10 minute spell or so we were starved of any possession and you were given 4 or 5 soft penalties for infringements that went unpunished the whole 1st half....and in the last 15 minutes....

I came out complaining of a poor refereeing performance....which is very, very unlike me.....and then to find out Ganson went in for a strong word at half time makes me queston why??

I hope Agar can back his comments up or he might find himself in deep water.

he will just ask Steve ganson, he won't lie, will he???

Back his comments up about what?

It has been confirmed by the match commissioner that Ganson went into the referee's dressing room at half time but wouldn't comment on what was said by Ganson.

Have you listened to the interview? Agar said that Wakey did not show enough determination & resilience when Saints had that sustained period of momentum but he did question what he called soft penalties in the second half & a refereeing performance that was different in the first half to the second. As regards Ganson entering the ref's dressing room at half time, it sounds like that the club does know that he did do that & that now will have to be investigated, but Agar said the dressing down discussion was a rumour but one that he said was on good authority. I think Agar is well within his rights to ask the question of the RFL as to why the ref's controller felt it necessary to enter the dressing room and then what was discussed?

Does this happen regular? Has it ever happened before? What did he go in for? Did Roby as to see Ganson?


Until we know the above it's a non issue.

Saints fan Ganson goes in to give the ref a rollocking when Saints are losing. Ref penalises Wakey much more. Saints win. Someone should say what was said.

If it was routine, would Agar have queried it? You know it's an issue. Imagine you're beating Warrington, Bentham goes in to give Child a rollicking, and thereafter Child penalises you to death. You'd say it was an issue.

I'm not that childish tbh.

I'd rather wait to the "real facts" came out.