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| Completely mullered by Bradford.
You guys must be hurting given the amount of bravado you have been giving it.
What a shame.
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| Consdering you beat us twice easy last year then not suprised. We still managed to finish above you as well.
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| Quote ="supercat"Consdering you beat us twice easy last year then not suprised. We still managed to finish above you as well.'"
On a technicality.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"On a technicality.'"
Maybe a technicality but if you had bought a team that you could afford to pay you would have finished bottom.
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| Feel free to continue to debate.
If you don't understand the rules (AUP) regarding the swear filter then don't post.
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| Not enough game time for a fair few of the forwards in pre season. It will take us 3-4 weeks of the first team playing together for us to start playing as we know we can. Timing is out, game fitness not there and due to injuries, strength could be a concern. Time will right all that even if its not what people want to hear. I expected more fight today though
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"Not enough game time for a fair few of the forwards in pre season. It will take us 3-4 weeks of the first team playing together for us to start playing as we know we can. Timing is out, game fitness not there and due to injuries, strength could be a concern. Time will right all that even if its not what people want to hear. I expected more fight today though'"
Thats optimistic,the squad have been in training since November,weve only added a couple of players to last seasons squad,so i really dont get why it will take another 3/4 weeks.
Defense was garbage most of last year and i see no reason why it wont be garbage again this year.
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| Not all the team have been training though. Lots have had operations and not doing a full pre season. Most pre season games we've been with only 1 recognised prop due to this. Plus kirmond and mariano been out and not playing together in pre season and its no surprise we looked disjointed. Keep the faith. If we learnt anything from last season it's not to start going over the top when we lose. Disappointing, certainly. Slit your wrist time, certainly not.
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"Not all the team have been training though. Lots have had operations and not doing a full pre season. Most pre season games we've been with only 1 recognised prop due to this. Plus kirmond and mariano been out and not playing together in pre season and its no surprise we looked disjointed. Keep the faith'"
Clutching at straws....
Where's Vastman? He been talked down off the bridge yet?
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| Celebrate a win with the bulls. No need to troll.
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| when people come on here and try and make exuses for a performance like that igive up ,timing is out game fitness not there whos fault is that i went to saints we were hammered i said wel trounce donny and every thing would be fineand people beleive that , stop wiping bums some of these players arnt good enough trouble is when folk criticise them they get shotdown . Time some on here face up to the fact that tim smith and andy realeigh aint gonna make every thing right
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| Quote ="try scorer"when people come on here and try and make exuses for a performance like that igive up ,timing is out game fitness not there whos fault is that i went to saints we were hammered i said wel trounce donny and every thing would be fineand people beleive that , stop wiping bums some of these players arnt good enough trouble is when folk criticise them they get shotdown . Time some on here face up to the fact that tim smith and andy realeigh aint gonna make every thing right'"
No I'll think you'll find that people get shot down when they start relentlessly bagging individual players. Mathers for instance was arguably our MOTM along with Aiton.
We were rudderless in attack without Timmy but the defence was awful. Poore was well, poor. The whole pack was steamrolled from start to finish, I was surprised as I think our pack has the potential to be top drawer.
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| Those who said Bulls should do their talking on the pitch were correct.
I was surprised at the result. And at how our supposedly lightweight pack totally buried yours, which on paper looks strong.
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| Think Wakefield fans saw the Paul Sykes all us bulls fans had the pleasure of seeing week in week out. The guy is garbage and today Sammut showed him how a stand off should play.
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| Quote ="try scorer"when people come on here and try and make exuses for a performance like that igive up ,timing is out game fitness not there whos fault is that i went to saints we were hammered i said wel trounce donny and every thing would be fineand people beleive that , stop wiping bums some of these players arnt good enough trouble is when folk criticise them they get shotdown . Time some on here face up to the fact that tim smith and andy realeigh aint gonna make every thing right'"
What is embarrassing is when people go way over the top when we lose. It's a long season. I'd have thought people would remember that from last season?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Those who said Bulls should do their talking on the pitch were correct.
I was surprised at the result. And at how our supposedly lightweight pack totally buried yours, which on paper looks strong.'"
As the saying goes 'It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog'. Bradford wanted it much more and thats the most disappointing thing.
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| went today and thought we were very poor.Did we complete a set? I thought it all started from the kick off when we bottled the catch and ended up with about 3 or 4 sets to defend was it mathers? i dont know but im sick of people on here defending poor basic skills catching and tackling.After that they put plenty of high kicks in for us, knock ons,dropped balls,poor defence. Im sorry to go on but we finished so well last season he's cleared out and brought in the players he wants' a full pre season [weathers effected all clubs But today i just didn't see anything.Fingers crossed for round2
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| Well what do I say Wakefield didn't turn up, our defence was shocking we looked clueless, and Mathers needs need to learn how to tackle one on one...
I hope Bradford fans are not wetting thems selfs with excitment, we was that poor on the field we would make a Amature side look good, I hope we learn from this and quick
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| im willing to bag any individual player ifb i think hes not doing his job and unfotunatley for mathers fans hes been at the head of my criticisum but todays was aterrible team performance and anyone who thinks smith alone can turn things round is living in dream land
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| Disappointed with the game. Yes its a long season and we can only improve. Away at Bradford isn't a game I would be expecting us to win to be fair more the reverse you'd expect Bradford to win, having said that though I would expect the team to perform better than they did. Every team in the league have the same prep time for fitness and training etc so that's no excuse.
Definitely lacked some attacking leadership (Tim Smith would of made a difference but we still wouldn't of won).
IMO too may basic errors eg knock on's near the line, missed tackles and generally poor defence. Defending back to back sets early on would of taken it off of the team but its no excuse they are athletes and should be trained and prepared for that situation.
Not into blaming individual players. Think we have a right to be annoyed and disappointing at the performance though, we do pay to see the team and that money pays their wages.
Just hope we do better against Hull, a poor start to the season will have an impact on attendances whereas the reverse is true.
Work to do in training, but it can only get better!
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| Poore was a liability once again, was it 4 penalties alone he conceded? Didn't seem like he was on for many minutes either but that might have been for tactical reasons.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"As the saying goes 'It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog'. Bradford wanted it much more and thats the most disappointing thing.'"
From a Bulls fan's perspective, of course, that is the most encouraging thing. Don't think any of us are under any illusions about how hard this season will be and no, I doubt any sensible Bulls fan will be "wetting himself with excitement" as Wildycat so eloquently put it. But I think our lot caught you by surprise with just how determined they intended to be. Won't catch anyone else by surprise now, though.
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| Quote from RA
Quote "Our contact was nowhere near up to scratch, in fact it was disgraceful. I lay the blame firmly at the door of our forwards. I'm not sure Tim Smith could have conjured up too much on attack behind that pack.'"
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| Our forwards were poor, Ollie Wilkes was by far our best forward today and considering who else played that was a shock, wood was dire, Mathers had a solid game in a poor match and made some good tackles, shame that we didn't put in the effort across the field, saying all that and we were never in the game, some decissions by mr thaler were bewildering, I dont think thay would of changed the result, but they could have changed the margin of the defeat .
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| Quote ="MorleyWildcat"Quote from RA
Quote "Our contact was nowhere near up to scratch, in fact it was disgraceful. I lay the blame firmly at the door of our forwards. I'm not sure Tim Smith could have conjured up too much on attack behind that pack.'" '"
Think this is bob on. Now just needs sorting out.
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