Bowden was a loss for me but Powell decided that was the right thing to do. I guess we have to give Shaw game time if he is to develop so we should tryst that he can. To a certain extent Bain is the same. Vagana would be fine but I'd rather let him develop at SR. Cozza is a 13 for me. No more a prop than Pitts.

[quote="PopTart":2097w74c]If he accepts being here as cover I don't want him. He's a starting prop for a playoff team. He should be aiming to be our best prop[/quote:2097w74c] Oh do give it a rest for once. You know exactly what I meant so stop the agent provocateur stuff, I wouldn’t mind if you were any good at it. He comes as back up FACT and he will have to accept that to start with FACT. If he goes onto prove himself worthy and becomes first choice that’s fantastic, I’d love that. What he can’t do is swagger in and think he’s number one based on past achievements and then sulk when he isn’t first on the list. You earn your change or are you claiming otherwise?

[quote="vastman":ynxuda1x]Pitts started his SL career with us as a prop so he has the knowledge. However I agree he’s not a prop anymore, he’s actually a perfect example of the arms race where player size is concerned. In the late 2000s he was adequate, now he’s just not big enough imho.[/quote:ynxuda1x] I’m pretty sure Pitts has never played prop other than a few handful of games to cover. Also I don’t recall him propping in his first few seasons in 2008. He came through as a 13 and second row but mainly 13 if memory serves. He played more at second row as time moved on but has transitioned back to 13 now again. He's never been a prop if I remember correctly.

[quote="vastman":1ej2ha03]Doesn’t even need to be SL imho. A fringe player or an ambitious young championship player would do fine for me. So long as the attitude is right and they are robust, that would be fine. Bit like a Rodwell, but a U.K. version, won’t be as good but still decent. Saw a few tough lads last year who’d do ok without ever being first choice.[/quote:1ej2ha03] The likes of Walmsley for Saints, Harrison for Wire, Batchelor for Saints and even Keegan Hirst for us shows there may be some in there who could thrive in full time training. Maybe there’s someone there. I’m surprised that we haven’t picked a project from the championship up.

[quote="Trojan Horse":1sdpohon]The likes of Walmsley for Saints, Harrison for Wire, Batchelor for Saints and even Keegan Hirst for us shows there may be some in there who could thrive in full time training. Maybe there’s someone there. I’m surprised that we haven’t picked a project from the championship up.[/quote:1sdpohon] Off the top of my head I can't think of one forward that played against us last season that would be worth a punt. Doro at Bradford looked decent but he's at Hull KR now.

[quote="imwakefieldtillidie":2bmtzqoz]Off the top of my head I can't think of one forward that played against us last season that would be worth a punt. Doro at Bradford looked decent but he's at Hull KR now.[/quote:2bmtzqoz] I thought Doro was poor. He ran hard but made zero post contact metres and got folded in the tackle. He won’t be SL ready for a couple years but I don’t rate him despite the media hype. Surprisingly, there was a forward who played us a few times for different teams out on loan. Had a good pair of hands too. Think it was Sammy Kibula.