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| [size=200:1kdepvbg[size=150Keighley first item up on tonight's Super League Backchat Sky Sport 2 @ 10pm. [/size
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| I have been advised, for everyone who doesn't have SKY that:
Quote It usually goes up the following day as a free link on the Sky Sports website.'"
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| can somone post up what the programme said (ie - did the Cougars get some sympathy?)
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| It hasn't been televised yet.
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| And there we have it, all 4 on superleague backchat think Batley should have the points deduction
doesn't mean it's going to happen though
Pity our legal action can't prevent the play offs taking place until this situation is resolved
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| Rod Studd - Said it was 96' all over again.
Stevo - RFL have embarrassed the game by allowing it to get to this stage.
Gareth Walker - Batley should have points deducted. All in favour of justice.
Chris Irvine - Punish the Bulldogs and Doncaster, scrap DR & Bonus Point systems.
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| And just one guess where this comment has been taken from:
Quote [size=150Equality – is the state of being equal – treating individuals equally, which does not necessarily mean treating them the same. In some cases the need for equality may require unequal effort to ensure the principle of equality is achieved.[/size'"
Well it certainly does as far as Batley and Doncaster are concerned!
Oh, by the way, I copied this comment from the official website of the RFL.
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| At least for ten minutes Batley and the RFL got a good slating there. To be honest I was initially concerned no one would give a toss, but there seems to be some support.
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| its on the web now
[urlhttp://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/tv-shows/super-league-back-chat/9462661/super-league-back-chat-9th-september[/url
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| That is some damn good publicity for us , four leading pundits
Saying we were wronged , the rfl are wrong and that Batley should
Loose the points.
That could and should do our case the eworld of good.
Excellent.
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| More scathing criticism for the RFL. I was quite surprised, but none the less very pleased at the unanimous support for Keighley expressed by all the pundits. Even Stevo was right behind us. If this is representative of the RL community in general, then surely there will already have been discussions at Red Hall about this spectacular mess they have made of things - AGAIN. One comment I particularly like on the petition that's currently running was... 'The RFL - not fit to run a bath'. Spot on.
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| Quote ="this_cougar_outfit"At least for ten minutes Batley and the RFL got a good slating there. To be honest I was initially concerned no one would give a toss, but there seems to be some support.'"
I didnt hear one pundit slate batley, in fact they all agreed we were'nt to blame, three times the rfl said fairbank was ok to play plus the mc on the day.
Dock three points from us and Donny plus the five from last season - Haven down you in play offs. Happy Days !!!!
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Quote ="Bat Lad"I didnt hear one pundit slate batley, in fact they all agreed we were'nt to blame, three times the rfl said fairbank was ok to play plus the mc on the day.
Dock three points from us and Donny plus the five from last season - Haven down you in play offs. Happy Days !!!!'"
Sign then.
https://www.change.org/p/the-rugby-foot ... etitionelp
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Dock three points from us and Donny plus the five from last season - Haven down you in play offs. Happy Days !!!!'"
Sign then.
https://www.change.org/p/the-rugby-foot ... etitionelp
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if its 3 points across the board then yes i would sign
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if its 3 points across the board then yes i would sign
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| Quote ="Bat Lad"if its 3 points across the board then yes i would sign'"
Typical response from Batley as a whole over this. It's never your fault.
Well actually it is. Batley and Donny should still have points taken off this season. Punish last years clubs by amending table from 2013, fair? Bet you say no!
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| Strangely enough there are 'precedents' for this action, seeing as Batley and Doncaster appear to wish to rely on 'Precedents':
How many Olympic Champions have been denied their medals, whatever colour they might be, because THEY BROKE THE RULES?
The same applies to Lance Armstrong and the Tour de France.
The 'record Books' have been changed so why not in Rugby League?
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| Quote ="Bat Lad"?.... three times the rfl said fairbank was ok to play plus the mc on the day.
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Firstly, I've nothing against you or other Batley fans and I admire the way you have steadily and progressively improved your ground.
Batleys excuse has changed from "ignorance of the rules" to "please sir, the rfl told us to do it" which are both an irrelevance to the points docking, as is claiming precedent. This years relegation system is completely different and you stood to influence the final standings, thus making precedent null and void. The player concerned was ineligible and influenced a game you won by scoring a try. There is only one just punishment and that is by docking at least 3 points ( a match win). Some even said (Doncaster were amongst this group) at the time that you should be docked 3 to expunge the win and a further 3 as punishment!!
If you have a case for the RFL giving misleading information then you should pursue them for financial compensation.
A good legal eagle will drive a coach and horses through your argument, it's a question of if we have the money to do it.
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| Quote ="Dreamer"Firstly, I've nothing against you or other Batley fans and I admire the way you have steadily and progressively improved your ground.
Batleys excuse has changed from "ignorance of the rules" to "please sir, the rfl told us to do it" which are both an irrelevance to the points docking, as is claiming precedent. This years relegation system is completely different and you stood to influence the final standings, thus making precedent null and void. The player concerned was ineligible and influenced a game you won by scoring a try. There is only one just punishment and that is by docking at least 3 points ( a match win). Some even said (Doncaster were amongst this group) at the time that you should be docked 3 to expunge the win and a further 3 as punishment!!
If you have a case for the RFL giving misleading information then you should pursue them for financial compensation.
A good legal eagle will drive a coach and horses through your argument, it's a question of if we have the money to do it.'"
Spot on Dreamer.
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| Looks like the RFL have painted themselves into a corner with this one . So what is the solution? Whatever they may decide the injured club will take action. As I said in a previous post run with 13 clubs (including Cougars) in the Championship next season and then balance up the 12-12-14 structure in 2016 by relegating 3 from Championship to Championship 1 . Seems the only way out to me that will cover all problems. Otherwise - law suits may be flying around all winter and the play-off's start on Sunday!!
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| There'll be some stressed out top brass at RL HQ this week trying work out how to dig themselves out of this mess. Can't really go with a 13 team instead of a 12 team Championship next year, as an odd number of teams would mess up their Championship Magic Weekend thing.
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| Quote ="Mr Churchill"There'll be some stressed out top brass at RL HQ this week trying work out how to dig themselves out of this mess. Can't really go with a 13 team instead of a 12 team Championship next year, as an odd number of teams would mess up their Championship Magic Weekend thing.'"
Make Batley sit out that particular weekend.
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| I've just seen the podcast and I can only say I hope the RFL have, feel suitably embarrassed and reinstate Keighley.
It's up to them to sort out the consequences and not just take the easy option of using Keighley as the fall guy yet again.
I only hope the club don't also take the easy option of the offer of some cash- are you listening Gary.
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| Gary has assured me the club are moving forward with this.
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