Whilst I agree in principle to Very Frank's comments about the improvements to the website it does come across as demanding. Sometimes I think people think the club has has endless supply of cash. We are a small club with ambition and reply on goodwill by fans. Maybe at times people need to understand that some tasks at the club are done by people out of love for the club, not for payment and they do their best. Rather than constantly saying we should do this, that and the other lets take account of this.

Yes, the website is a bit outdated and there are better out there, but as Spymaster says these people are probably working full time and exclusively on this. I'm not sure the club can afford this at the present time. In the future who knows.............?

How long would it take to have an embedded table?
Photos from this season inserted?
Not demanding hours of labour, but the club is paying somebody to do this and in my opinion they are getting a poor product. Yes I know people volunteer there services and do put bits on there for the fans. Rach for one. I have to say thank god Rachel does. If it were not for her efforts then I don't think fans would get anything from the website.

Dominance I never demanded anything. Just expressed an opinion about an area where we are not quite keeping up with the rest of the field. I like anybody else is entitled to have an opinion. Just as you are entitled to yours and it might be right that there are higher priorities.

Very Frank - As I have said I agree with your points in princinple. You obviously know more about the clubs website situation that me but how much money can the club throw at this. You sometimes only get what you pay for.

Just to clarify, I said it comes across as demanding, and words such as "I WANT" give that impression. You raise good points and I like to debate. It's maybe not what is said, but maybe how it's said. Just a thought.

i've designed and maintained web sites for several bodies. in my experience i start off putting a load of content on that i think should be there. it is then up to the owner to supply new content. for the site to stay current this has to be done frequently. it also has to be supplied to me digitally so it can be entered easily.

maintaining a web site takes HOURS and is a pain in the backside. if the owner isn't interested in supplying me with content then i'm not going to bother with putting any on there. after all, i've done my bit (the hosting, design and initial input) result: stale web site.

i'm not saying that's definitely the case with the Cougars' site, but that's my personal experience. many times i've been asked to do a new web site when what's actually needed is new content for the existing one.

pretty layout is all well and good, but content is king.

Not wanting to sound demanding or having a go, but correct me if I'm wrong, the Clubs website still has our prices for 2010 season on it's match day tickets page. PRICES Adult Ground £14.00 Concession Ground £7.00 Under 16 Ground £4.00 Stand Transfer £1.00 www.keighleycougars.com/?page_id=37 I'm sure I paid £11. Maybe it's me who has lost my marbles. Now in a none demanding, and only polite requesting way could I request after being a third of the way through the season somebody checks the website prices match what prices people will pay on the gate. Photos I see have been updated on the front page.

Not wanting to sound demanding or having a go, but correct me if I'm wrong, the Clubs website still has our prices for 2010 season on it's match day tickets page. PRICES Adult Ground £14.00 Concession Ground £7.00 Under 16 Ground £4.00 Stand Transfer £1.00 www.keighleycougars.com/?page_id=37 I'm sure I paid £11. Maybe it's me who has lost my marbles. Now in a none demanding, and only polite requesting way could I request after being a third of the way through the season somebody checks the website prices match what prices people will pay on the gate. Photos I see have been updated on the front page.

Also a good idea would be to put the correct time the gates are open.

Very Frank - If I was in charge of the club you would get my vote for our chief website designer. Especially now in your non demanding way!

In all seriousness, it is an error and does make the club look a bit unprofessional. It's only a 2 minute job to update so let's hope someone at the club is reading this and can remedy.

Still no this season's prices on the match day tickets page. www.keighleycougars.com/?page_id=37 Also no match report from Workington or South Wales home wins. Most recent news item it saying Reserves are playing next Thursday, which refers to a game last Thursday. Not demanding anything, just pointing out what everyone can see, or can't see maybe!! On a positive the Twitter Feeds, Facebook links are good for the social networkers.

Still no this season's prices on the match day tickets page. www.keighleycougars.com/?page_id=37 Also no match report from Workington or South Wales home wins. Most recent news item it saying Reserves are playing next Thursday, which refers to a game last Thursday. Not demanding anything, just pointing out what everyone can see, or can't see maybe!! On a positive the Twitter Feeds, Facebook links are good for the social networkers.

Blimey I actually agree with Very Frank, I was being kind to club hoping Frank was wrong but we do appear to bit slack on updates. Also the twitter thing is very good.

10 days, no update, when was the last match report, has the club dispensed with idea of having a website. Or do we only update when we are winning.

Somebody is responsible for keeping the website up to date.
Somebody is responsible for giving that person the info to put on.

Mid season, as Spymaster says, a little slack maybe.

One of the directors must realise we are not marketing ourselves on the web too well.

That said Merchandise page and LS Prints partnership looks spot on.
Well done to somebody.

I never bother with the club website any more. If I wasn't already a fan, I don't think it would convince me to become one! I think I'd be getting my info from the Keighley News.

And there in lies the problem.

The club website should be the first point of call for club news.

But when the news is on other sites first, it doesn't look professional.

If fans are going elsewhere how many times are those adverts going to be looked at?

With respect to Mike's videos we shoudn't really be finding out on YouTube via here about 2 new signings before it's up on the club's own pages.

I used to be sent all the clubs press releases.
As soon as i got them i posted them on here.

For some reason, which i have never been told that stopped.

Apart from Micks videos does the club do press releases any more?????????????

Wasn't that Helen who supplied the info to you?

I think the whole website issue is a time and money situation. Yes, I agree it would be nice to have a website looking as good and updated as the example on the initial thread, however, I think the club has channeled that money into the playing squad with the aim of promotion. Maybe, given the shake up at the end of the season that is a worthwhile decision. We need to be in the Championship! When we are in the Championship maybe this can be looked at. I accept the clubs information source would appear by and large to be Micky's videos. Maybe this is an efficient use of the resources at the moment.

Yes, but its not going to attract new followers as it is, is it? Someone new to the area say, or someone bored with the Bulls, sees a mention of there being an RL team in Keighley. They google the website, see how out of date it is, and go somewhere else.

It might be a money issue for all I know, either way, its not a great ad to anyone new looking at the club for details

In fairness, I don't think it's exclusively the web site that will attract new supporters. The fact is, whatever the club does there will be criticism. I just provided a viewpoint on the possible reasons. I'm not saying it's right. Personally, if it meant we'd get in the Championship I'd be happy for the website to take a backseat. That's my view and am sure others will disagree. Maybe those who like the website to be up to date and are in the know may like to volunteer their own time to the cause like Micky does?

Having an up to date website may not bring new fans.

Neglecting the one we have puts out a message that the club doesn't care about the fans and their numbers shall further dwindle.

There are some savings which turn out to be very costly.

Hopefully one of the business brains amongst the directors responsible will get this door closed whilst there are still some horses left to bolt.

Maybe the flip side of that argument is that the club value the fans and have chosen to update fans by video mail rather than the website and have put more money into the playing squad? Don't get me wrong I'd love an all singing and dancing website, but there isn't a massive budget for that job one assumes.

Yes it was.
Shame it stopped. As i used to post them on other sites as well.

Is it me or should the "New Squad Builder Package" link on the website say what you actually get in the package. There are discounts and offers a plenty that somebody had negotiated. www.keighleycougars.com/?page_id=2992 At the moment the page is like a shop with a price , but no product on display. If the offers and discounts are aimed at helping sell the package, then maybe we should put them here.

Is it me or should the "New Squad Builder Package" link on the website say what you actually get in the package. There are discounts and offers a plenty that somebody had negotiated. www.keighleycougars.com/?page_id=2992 At the moment the page is like a shop with a price , but no product on display. If the offers and discounts are aimed at helping sell the package, then maybe we should put them here.

Wouldnt it have made more sense to have done that out of season? Because the one thing thats for sure is that more people will come looking for info during the season than out of it?

Not asking for the world, I know on the video on 21st of June a new website with fixtures, tables, match day reports is coming. If that is in 6-8 weeks what games will that have on it?

In the mean time it makes no sense to neglect the present website.
How long would it take to put on the 10 or so offers available to people can see what they are getting.

Set a new website up when the season ends

It either needs to be done on a regular basis or not at all. If there are no updates why have a massive advertising trailer outside the ground which actualy says "Keighley Cougars for more information visit the web site" You wouldnt have a sandwich shop advertising bacon butties, but cant buy one when you get in there.

This website if populated correctly is good enough, how many more websites do we have to raise/start?? Its the lack of commitment to the website that is the problem, not the website itself which i think is quite a good one.