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| I wasn't being dismissive at all, I simply asked the question.
If I'd have gone we play every Good Friday and you should know this by now, tough riddance ect. then fair enough.
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| The only bad thing of the whole day was both Bradford clubs won
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| Quote ="Hello Trouble!"I wasn't being dismissive at all, I simply asked the question.
If I'd have gone we play every Good Friday and you should know this by now, tough riddance ect. then fair enough.'"
This may seem a bit like a storm in a tea cup, but to the fans who missed the game, and to those who took a day from their valuable holiday allocations there is a point.
For you as our media rep (if that's what you are) I would have expected a better choice of words.
- "We've always played on good Friday" is ignoring the critical fact that we have normally played Good Friday EVENING not afternoon.
- saying "I can't understand the problem" is at worst being dismissive and at best naive.
I'm all for the club trying something different that might boost attendance, but I'm not convinced this has.
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| Quote ="HalifaxCougar"I still think the crowd would have been lower for an evening kick off.
3pm was therefore the best time.'"
How do you know that?
You might be right, but just interested in why you think that.
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| Quote ="HalifaxCougar"The only bad thing of the whole day was both Bradford clubs won
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Okay but Batley lost .... so that's a bonus!
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| Quote ="Dreamer"This is May seem a bit like a storm in a tea cup, but to the fans who missed the game, and to those who took a day from their valuable holiday allocations there is a point.
For you as our media rep (if that's what you are) I would have expected a better choice of words.
- "We've always played on good Friday" is ignoring the critical fact that we have normally played Good Friday EVENING not afternoon.
- saying "I can't understand the problem" is at worst being dismissive and at best naive.
I'm all for the club trying something different that might boost attendance, but I'm not convinced this has.'"
Well it's clear that there is no point in buying a season ticket next year if I'm going to loose out on seeing the match because Gary thicks City playing at home will cause a reduced attendance. Neither Batley or the Dulls thought along the same lines.
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| I wouldn't have come across for an evening game, for starters. Factor of public transport over a distance.
Same as its nigh impossible for me to get to Sunday games as well
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| Quote ="Dreamer"Quote ="HalifaxCougar"I still think the crowd would have been lower for an evening kick off.
3pm was therefore the best time.'"
How do you know that?
You might be right, but just interested in why you think that.'"
Points to consider on both sides - yes attendance was good , boosted by the kids games and a a fair deputation of past players invited because of the presentation for Terry -neither of which would have probably happened if had been an evening kickoff but then on the other hand alienating the core support like Mickey and KRLFC by doing away with the traditional kick off time ( even more so if its because of the round ball game ) is not a wise move either ..
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| Quote ="Dreamer"How do you know that?
You might be right, but just interested in why you think that.'"
For a starters there was around 10 fax fans in bar that would not have been there.
I still think we have played afternoon game on this day last couple of years and there was only a moan from 666 then. I feel for the fans that missed the game but lets be honest it was right call.
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| Quote ="HalifaxCougar"For a starters there was around 10 fax fans in bar that would not have been there.
I still think we have played afternoon game on this day last couple of years and there was only a moan from 666 then. I feel for the fans that missed the game but lets be honest it was right call.'"
Good to hear that fax fans turned up,I hope they enjoyed it.
We played it in the afternoon last year and fans complained then too. I can't remember playing in the afternoon the year before but I could be wrong.
As for it being the right call, I assume that if you had the stats you would show them so it's only your "gut feel". My gut feel is you're wrong .
It would be interesting to look at stats for past Friday night games and compare - have the club done this? I'm happy to be proved wrong. I'll try and get hold of a Gillette yearbook and find out.
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| Quote ="HalifaxCougar"
Anyone see over 1500 at Newcastle. Very good crowd.'"
Yes, I saw that. No idea what's going on there. If I remember rightly most of their attendances last season were less than 200. To suddenly achieve 1,500 is some achievement. There were a few quite encouraging attendances - not least our own which was far higher than I expected. The new boys at Coventry also pulled in over 700 which isn't bad at all.
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I enjoyed the game v York. Although I can't get to every home game I do get to many of them but that was the first time I've seen us win at Cougar Park since we beat Swinton in the league last season. I was beginning to think I was becoming a jinx. Nice to see some real enthusiasm in defence in this game and it did the trick. Not quite firing on all cylinders but very encouraging and it made the evening in the Boltmakers all the more enjoyable
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| Quote ="Dreamer"Good to hear that fax fans turned up,I hope they enjoyed it.
We played it in the afternoon last year and fans complained then too. I can't remember playing in the afternoon the year before but I could be wrong.
As for it being the right call, I assume that if you had the stats you would show them so it's only your "gut feel". My gut feel is you're wrong
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It would be interesting to look at stats for past Friday night games and compare - have the club done this? I'm happy to be proved wrong. I'll try and get hold of a Gillette yearbook and find out.'"
What stats do you need? Some on here were saying we will average around 500 this season but were over 900 already.... 2 Cougars fans missed the game, in life you can't please everyone all the time. You have to do whats best to make the most cash and pay the staff... if we had played at 7.30 infront of 650 who makes up the lost income?
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| Just out of curiosity, and pushing the illogic of the Friday KO time to one side, why wasn't the fixture organised for either Saturday, Sunday (all the shops are shut), or even Monday?
It's not that there are 2 games over the holiday period.
Also, back to Friday, Bradford City were playing away but as mentioned in a different post, we have the better sport but seem to be afraid of promoting it.
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| We had a good win, good family atmosphere, lots of people made the game - shame a few couldnt. That'll do me.
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| Quote ="HalifaxCougar"What stats do you need? '"
I would have thought the obvious stats would be Good Friday attendance for the last few years.
Quote ="HalifaxCougar"Some on here were saying we will average around 500 this season but were over 900 already.... '"
We've played one match and you're quoting averages already If you are going to repeat what others have said then you could at least qualify it - I believe the 500 quote was based on what we could expect if we continued to play badly. The attendance against York was boosted by the youth game and the naming of Terry's stand.
Quote ="HalifaxCougar"2 Cougars fans missed the game, in life you can't please everyone all the time. '"
What evidence do you base this on? The couple of dozen that post on this site? You must use the same stats man a a politician who wants to "prove a point"
Quote ="HalifaxCougar"You have to do whats best to make the most cash and pay the staff...'"
Without being rude, that's pretty obvious.
Quote ="HalifaxCougar" if we had played at 7.30 infront of 650 who makes up the lost income?'"
Once again you are making assumptions that suit your argument, we might have played in front of 1200.
Without comparing previous attendance we are both guessing, even then we still don't really know. If the club has done its homework, and have chosen an afternoon kick off because they thought it would improve the crowd then that's all anyone can ask. I still personally prefer Friday night games and would normally have worked friday afternoon, but since I'm lucky enough to work when I choose I could move it. My wife was due to work but took holiday to make the match. We aren't the only ones.
At the end of the day I want the club to be successful, but through good judgement, not a whim.
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| I think I'll read something else
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| Quote ="cougartime"I think I'll read something else'"
If all you want is for people to agree with you then perhaps you should.
Fans forums are for debate.
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| Quote ="Dreamer"I would have thought the obvious stats would be Good Friday attendance for the last few years.
We've played one match and you're quoting3 averages already
If you are going to repeat what others have said then you could at least qualify it - I believe the 500 quote was based on what we could expect if we continued to play badly. The attendance against York was boosted by the youth game and the naming of Terry's stand.
What evidence do you base this on? The couple of dozen that post on this site? You must use the same stats man a a politician who wants to "prove a point"
Without being rude, that's pretty obvious.
Once again you are making assumptions that suit your argument, we might have played in front of 1200.
Without comparing previous attendance we are both guessing, even then we still don't really know. If the club has done its homework, and have chosen an afternoon kick off because they thought it would improve the crowd then that's all anyone can ask. I still personally prefer Friday night games and would normally have worked friday afternoon, but since I'm lucky enough to work when I choose I could move it. My wife was due to work but took holiday to make the match. We aren't the only ones.
At the end of the day I want the club to be successful, but through good judgement, not a whim.'"
Deep down we both know an evening kick off would have been a lower crowd?
I dont remember any evening crowds being that great for a few years never mind one in this league with 30 away fans.
To end I think its clear to say, decent start to the season played in front of a great crowd. Roll on Hemel except I can't make it.
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| Quote ="cougartime"Doh!'"
Actually it's D'oh!
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| Quote ="HalifaxCougar"Deep down we both know an evening kick off would have been a lower crowd?
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We'll agree to disagree on that one.
Quote ="HalifaxCougar"I dont remember any evening crowds being that great for a few years never mind one in this league with 30 away fans.'"
I don't make a point of memorising crowds but I do recall some well attended friday nights and some quiet ones too.
Quote ="HalifaxCougar"To end I think its clear to say, decent start to the season played in front of a great crowd. Roll on Hemel except I can't make it.'"
I thought it was a great start to the season in front of a much bigger crowd than I expected. I'll send you a text from Hemel with the result
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| Quote ="Dreamer"We'll agree to disagree on that one.
I don't make a point of memorising crowds but I do recall some well attended friday nights and some quiet ones too.
I thought it was a great start to the season in front of a much bigger crowd than I expected. I'll send you a text from Hemel with the result
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Your making the high night crowds up. Infact some night ones v Halifax recently have not been much more than Friday's!
Yes it's a shame about the Hamel game, It just doesn't suit me kicking off at half 2 so I am having to miss it. Bit annoying and I may not renew my away season ticket because of it but I shall see.
Move further forward I may have to miss Newcastle too as I have a feeling I will be over the legal driving limit due to a massive game in Glasgow the day before, as were friends now and you are sending me score updates any chance you can pick me up and take me to Newcastle?
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| Quote ="HalifaxCougar"Your making the high night crowds up. '"
No I'm not.
Quote ="HalifaxCougar"Move further forward I may have to miss Newcastle too as I have a feeling I will be over the legal driving limit due to a massive game in Glasgow the day before, as were friends now and you are sending me score updates any chance you can pick me up and take me to Newcastle? '"
Are you any good with a parachute?
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| Quote ="Dreamer"No I'm not.
Are you any good with a parachute?'"
Not with a hangover no.
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| Quote ="HalifaxCougar"Not with a hangover no.'"
You could take the HALO option but without the LO. Can get a bit messy though.
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