Does anyone else find it quite hilarious the game of the tournament, despite the highly suspicious Japanese first up result, was a game featuring 12 penalty goals, 2 tries and 53 points (Wales v England)?

Nothing has changed with union.

They still need to copy our scoring system but can't bring themselves to do it. Checkmate.

Hurray another anti-union thread.

You can post these all day but it just comes across as envious at what is clearly a superior international product.

Hardly. It points out the fundamental problem rugby union has.

They are stuck in our timeline circa 1910 in terms of game development. It is very funny to watch them flopping around being so amateurish while we have done all these things they need to do aeons ago. Serious rugby union people understand this.

The froth and bubble of the union WC is nothing more than a demonstration of what money and hype does. Pure and simple.

The problem isn't the scoring system, it's inherent in the game. More and more points for tries have been attempted to try to encourage attacking play. Of course, it makes it even more worthwhile to concede pens to prevent tries.

Same would apply to downgrading pens to 2. So use more yellow cards instead of pens? Well, they already chuck them about like confetti compared to league... Only thing they could and should do is reduce the value of a drop-goal.

Nah increase it to 4 points again like it used to be in union. Then exciting stats like 2/8 drop attempts Wales, 1/9 drop attempts England could be salivated over endlessly as well. It would add to the theatre.

Mitchell and Kenyon stuff current rugby union.

Come on mods, lock non-RL threads!

The op should have shortened the title.
"Union still dire"

It's easy, watch League instead.
There will be more folk in Manchester on Saturday watching "The Greatest Game" than watching the establishment façade
so leave the media to one of their favourites and we can all watch Leeds and Wigan ripping it up in the Grand Final

It shouldn't be locked as it is not a thread about rugby union but about a relationship between the two games in which rugby league so obviously leaves rugby union for dead. I have no interest in rugby union nor do I watch it. What I do find interesting is on any cursory viewing of what has been shoved down our throats, its many faults which are solely due to the history of the two games still remain so fundamentally evident.

This leads to the question - why don't they modify the rules?

The answer is, more often than not, because they don't want to be seen to be copying the superior evolved form of rugby - rugby league. As such this is fundamentally about rugby league and the influence it continues to assert on what many of you seem to regard as a superior sport.

As I say, I do already. But otherwise, well said.

No of course you don't



That's why you just started the umpteenth thread on a RL forum obsessing about it. It's called an inferiority complex

Who are you, you sad little cretin? I am not Mr Churchill. I just joined the forum today. Not a previous member.

Personal insults? Classic sign of an inferiority complex.

I feel another 100 pages coming on. Keep it up

Read your post. You attacked me by saying I was someone else. Retract it or concede you were wrong.

Who is this clown? The resident union troll?

I take it there is an ignore function here? Edit - found it.

Imagine if the Mods created a forum for ChangingGutterMan, Galliant and Poopa C to just argue amongst themselves.

it would certainly make it worth visiting the VT more often and maybe bring back some people who no longer visit for that reason
however i think they are happy to keep the rubbish to the detriment of the forum.

Sorry I don't see how I fit in. If you have an issue with my posts, deal with the content.

I don't its just that you are like the anti-matter to the other 2. it would be fun to watch.

The issue is the content

I think you are missing the fundamental existence that Union is a completely different game to League, far more technical and advantage based its not a running game compared to League. Union doesn't have a fundamental problem it doesn,t need to "re-badge" like we do in League we are so far back in marketing the game we are of little significance as a global sport.

Can,t see any problem with there scoring system, there is encouragement to play wider (Oz, NZ, Wales) away from technical set positions hence more tries. Winning the advantage (penalties) from set plays is still the very basic of the Union Laws so I don't know why League Fans tries to devalue it to League Laws and Rulings of our game.

Wales v England. A highlight.

12 penalty goals, 2 tries. Nothing to see here.

Yes union is full of rubbish we weeded out long ago. So?

You might also notice the countries you mentioned are in the southern hemisphere in union, leaving aside Wales (who are notoriously up and down and have beaten the All Blacks last in the 1950s from memory).

Why do you think that is? Because they are hugely affected by rugby league in Australia. NZ 4 million pop. SA white population 10%. Australia 23 million. All directly affected. Union is dying in Australia as well. The AFL/NRL deals have squeezed it back into its little private school box.

It will also be a short chat as one (galliant) is on ignore. I will keep an eye out for the other one and do the same when it arrives. Appreciate the heads up.