as you were....

Danny mate have to disagree with Cena turning heel been similar to Hogan's - that move changed pro wrestling for ever. It led to much better and more adult-oriented storylines as WCW and WWF fought to out-do each other, and really it revolutionised the business. A Cena turn would be good, but IMO it wouldn't have anywhere near as much impact as Hogan's did, although it would have been more effective for Cena if they'd done it a few years ago, but it's all about money (merchandise) to WWE.

Can't really compare Hogan and Cena, pro wrestling is a completely different game now than back in Hogans era.

Totally agree bud, just wish someone would tell Hogan that.

Back then, wrestling was wrestling.

Now, its more like a situation drama, with a couple of matches chucked in around the bad acting and shouting fests in the ring. Was only born in 88 so didn't see any of the 80s wrestling til I managed to get hold of some old video tapes but I would rather watch that over any 'modern' wrestling except maybe the Stone Cold-Rock era.

Started watching it in '91 when WWF had great wrestlers like Bret Hart, Mr Perfect, The Rockers etc so know exactly what you mean.



What really pi$$es me off these days is the goldfish bowl the WWE lives in - they're so dismissive of anyone who's worked in other countries/promotions, so the first thing they feel they have to do when they sign a world-class, world-travelled performer like CM Punk or Brian Danielson is teach them 'how to work'.







Speaking of Danielson, been watching some old NXT clips tonight, they really were idiots for sacking that guy.

Yeah, Vince likes to think all of his guys are the best instead of giving others a chance.

Well it's their loss.

Let the "Daniel Bryan...." chants continue till they hopefully see sense and bring him back.

Wasn't he suspended?

Well what I read was that they released him from his contract after he choked announcer Justin Roberts with his own tie on the show-closing angle on Raw a month or so ago where the NXT guys trashed the set/beat up Punk, Cena etc. Apparantly he just went too far in the beat-up with the tie because in the PG era that they're in it was deemed 'too violent' for TV/kids. Absolutely ridiculous if you ask me, because for as long as I've been watching it choking has happened all the time e.g.:

Ring ropes
Tag ropes
Wrist tape
TV cable on the outside of the ring

etc etc

All Bryan did was give 100% effort and contribute to a fantastic angle. They're pathetic if you ask me, letting one of the best wrestlers in the world go just because of that. He would (like CM Punk) have been a perfect employee - Bryan doesn't smoke, drink, do drugs or anything, but for some reason it seems they were determind to find a reason to get rid of him.



Went on SmackDown v Raw 2010 last night, must say at the moment 2009 seems better.



Oh, and how scary does CM Punk look bald?!!

i really dont know what i was thinking tbh wrestling has changed alot since the monday nights wars



please forgive me



if cena did turn heel i would like to see him rapping again

He's clearly upset someone backstage. He's a shawn michaels trained wrestler and apparantly michaels was not happy about the firing.

The reason he was released for choking with the tie is that that's what He Must Must Not Be Mentioned (Benoit) did.

Though he was welcomed back at indy feds with open arms: [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdApDyyQuEk1[/url & [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS5xvjoyHJY&feature=related2[/url

PG certificate wrestling = crap.

Could get away with that sort of stuff donkeys years ago and make it work very nicely but now, it just doesn't work. You can't play around with a product and alter the content level as you please.

Yeah you could get away with doing more in those days .. Out of the whole WCW roster in 2001 that was under 40 years old, (35 of them), 21 are dead. Stats are worse with those over 40.

Virtually everyone that came out of the powerplant is an industry casualty.

TNA iMPACT! on August 12th (August 14th over here) will have matches that were going to be on the original Hard Justice card.

"THE WHOLE F'N SHOW" ROB VAN DAM vs. ABYSS (TNA WORLD TITLE MATCH)

"OLYMPIC GOLD MEDALIST" KURT ANGLE vs. "THE PHENOMENAL" AJ STYLES

ANGELINA LOVE vs. MADISON RAYNE (TNA KNOCKOUTS TITLE MATCH)

"THE CHARISMATIC ENGIMA" JEFF HARDY'S OPEN CHALLENGE

"THE POPE" D'ANGELO DINERO vs. "THE BLUEPRINT" MATT MORGAN vs. MR. ANDERSON

BEER MONEY vs. MOTOR CITY MACHINE GUNS (IF NEEDED IN THE BEST OF 5), TNA WORLD TAG TEAM TITLES MATCH)

INK INC. vs. GENERATION ME (#1 CONETENDER'S MATCH FOR TNA WORLD TAG TEAM TITLES)

Should be a great episode of iMPACT! with longer matches, no promos and less adverts.

TNA are also opening a European office in the UK with The Sun's Wrestling Editor Simon Rothstein being the first to join.

Why does Jeff Hardy have "charismatic" as his moniker? He has the charisma of a paper bag.

I remember when E&C showed a video of the hardys as kids..."Charisma baby"

Think they mean in terms of his character/style e.g. his moveset, style, facepaint etc. Agree his mic skills aren't the best, but I do think he's charismatic in that he doesn't really need to talk to get over (like Sting) - he just had that presence that commands attention, if that makes any sense.

jeff hardy is a great wrestler, he doesnt need a mic to sell his match and lets his wrestling do the talking for him

THat's what I meant, you just put it 100x better mate.

us hull fans say it how it is

That's why putting him with Ken anderson is a great idea ... Hardy can get fatter whilst Anderson does the promos..

Incidentally I've had a re-think & I'm certain it was Janice on the motorbike that cost Angelina the title.

Oh. My. Gawwwwwwwwd.

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