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| Ricky Hatton v Juan Lazcano is now confirmed for 24th May 2008 at COM Stadium. The fight will be in British time btw, not American. 10pm Ray Hatton (Ricky's father) reckons.
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"Ricky Hatton v Juan Lazcano is now confirmed for 24th May 2008 at COM Stadium. The fight will be in British time btw, not American. 10pm Ray Hatton (Ricky's father) reckons.'"
Tickets go on sale on Friday, and will cost as little as £30, with family of 4 tickets costing £100.
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| Might go to that - never seen Hatton before.
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| would love to go wathcin that but it was good enough in the pub last time
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| Quote ="Vida15"Tickets go on sale on Friday, and will cost as little as £30, with family of 4 tickets costing £100.'"
I got the pre-sales link today and bought some tickets this morning. £30 tickets, although wanted £35 (they were unavailable). Our tickets are still awesome though. Just to right of the half way line, 3rd tier. Can't wait!
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"Ricky Hatton v Juan Lazcano .'"
Hatton VS WHO ?
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| Hatton against a nobody.
Not the best of opponents agreed, but after a defeat like the one against Mayweather this is the ideal opponent and who can blame him?
Already shifted in the region of 20,000 tickets before they officially go on sale tomorrow morning, so not that bad hey?
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| Quote ="upthecats"Hatton against a nobody.
Not the best of opponents agreed, but after a defeat like the one against Mayweather this is the ideal opponent and who can blame him?
Already shifted in the region of 20,000 tickets before they officially go on sale tomorrow morning, so not that bad hey?'"
I know you're pretty clued up about Hatton, so why do you think the Witter fight has never happened or even come close to happening?
Both are British, both are genuine class boxers at the top of their game and the peak of their careers and Witter is the current WBC champ.
Witter has said in the past he'll fight Hatton for peanuts, but the Hatton camp have always come across as quite dismissive of him so I'd love to know what the reality is and why the opportunity for these two to meet in what we would be a massive event has passed by, any idea?
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| not the greatest of opponents but at least he aint done a naz and sulked at home for a year or so! good on hatton for getting straight back on the bike(so to speak)
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| Good idea by Hatton IMO.
Don't face the "biggest" of opponents in his first fight after the defeat, beat him well, gain confidence and get good support in front of his home crowd.
He's already stated that this fight isn't about money generation, I think it's good for his support TBH. A lot of people gained interest when the Mayweather fight happened, now that he is back in England, the "newer" fans of boxing won't know whether the opponent is world class or not, so a victory from Hatton shows them that he is a good boxer and boost his profile...so that if he has a rematch with Mayweather or even a fight against Witter, there will still be a lot of interest in the fight to give him a major fight deal IMO.
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| Over 40,000 tickets sold apparently. Unbelievable!
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| Quote ="DAZ™"I know you're pretty clued up about Hatton, so why do you think the Witter fight has never happened or even come close to happening?
Both are British, both are genuine class boxers at the top of their game and the peak of their careers and Witter is the current WBC champ.
Witter has said in the past he'll fight Hatton for peanuts, but the Hatton camp have always come across as quite dismissive of him so I'd love to know what the reality is and why the opportunity for these two to meet in what we would be a massive event has passed by, any idea?'"
Extreme high risk for little-to-no reward.
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| I feel sorry for Witter. In an ideal world he'd go ahead and unify the division. But every fighter worth his salt knows Hatton is a bigger (and perhaps easier) draw. Why fight Witter for nothing when you can fight Hatton and become a millionaire overnight?
So Witter is effectively frozen out. All he can do is keep fighting the mandatories and HOPE a big name comes up.
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| Witter has only got himself to blame IMO.
When the fight could have been a possibility about 4 or 5 years ago Witter was too busy bad mouthing Hatton and putting in dreadful performances at the same time.
Since the Kostya Tsyzu victory though, Hatton's goal has all about making his name in the boxing capital of the World. Because of this a fight with Witter has been impossible to make.
People who say Ricky is ducking Witter, need only look at Ricky's last opponent and at what weight that fight took place to realise that Ricky is afraid of taking no-one on if the fight makes sense.
Only in his last couple of fights has Witter done enough in the ring to even warrant being mentioned in the same breath as Ricky. Unfotunately the timing of that isn't good for Witter because his next two fights were always going to be a hand picked 'easier fight' (Lazcano) and then to top the bill at MSG against Paulie.
If Witter can bite his tongue a bit and concentrate on putting on two good performances in the ring in the next 12 months and everything goes to plan for Ricky, then I honestly believe the fight will be made next year.
Having followed Ricky for a long time now and got to know a lot of his die hard fans, slowly the opinion on a fight with Witter is turning. From laughing it off as a joke 3-4 years ago people are now really wanting it on and if things go well for both in their next two fights then it simply has to be made, and will be IMO.
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| Quote ="upthecats"Witter has only got himself to blame IMO.
When the fight could have been a possibility about 4 or 5 years ago Witter was too busy bad mouthing Hatton and putting in dreadful performances at the same time.
Since the Kostya Tsyzu victory though, Hatton's goal has all about making his name in the boxing capital of the World. Because of this a fight with Witter has been impossible to make.
People who say Ricky is ducking Witter, need only look at Ricky's last opponent and at what weight that fight took place to realise that Ricky is afraid of taking no-one on if the fight makes sense.
Only in his last couple of fights has Witter done enough in the ring to even warrant being mentioned in the same breath as Ricky. Unfotunately the timing of that isn't good for Witter because his next two fights were always going to be a hand picked 'easier fight' (Lazcano) and then to top the bill at MSG against Paulie.
If Witter can bite his tongue a bit and concentrate on putting on two good performances in the ring in the next 12 months and everything goes to plan for Ricky, then I honestly believe the fight will be made next year.
Having followed Ricky for a long time now and got to know a lot of his die hard fans, slowly the opinion on a fight with Witter is turning. From laughing it off as a joke 3-4 years ago people are now really wanting it on and if things go well for both in their next two fights then it simply has to be made, and will be IMO.'"
Pretty much spot on. Let's be honest, Ricky Hatton will sell out COM Stadium against a reasonable fighter, but a fighter everyone expects Ricky to comfortably beat. Ricky is a huge draw and everyone wants to fight him. Ricky will pick out the very best fighters, but also the ones who are likely to draw big money all over the world, particularly in America. Witter simply doesn't do that at the moment, despite his credentials in the ring.
Witter needs to stop whining and do his business in the ring and I'm sure Hatton will look up and take him more seriously. It only takes one big win to propel you on to the world stage. Look what the win against Kosta Tszyu did for Ricky.
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"Pretty much spot on. Let's be honest, Ricky Hatton will sell out COM Stadium against a reasonable fighter, but a fighter everyone expects Ricky to comfortably beat. Ricky is a huge draw and everyone wants to fight him. Ricky will pick out the very best fighters, but also the ones who are likely to draw big money all over the world, particularly in America. Witter simply doesn't do that at the moment, despite his credentials in the ring.
Witter needs to stop whining and do his business in the ring and I'm sure Hatton will look up and take him more seriously. It only takes one big win to propel you on to the world stage. Look what the win against Kosta Tszyu did for Ricky.'"
Hatton and his team have never fancied the Witter fight, that has nothing to do with commercial reasoning, it is purely because Witter is a smart operator who has all the tools to give a come forward, easily hit fighter like Hatton all the trouble he needs.
The shame is that that takes away what the British public want to see.
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| Quote ="Dirty Harry"Hatton and his team have never fancied the Witter fight, that has nothing to do with commercial reasoning, it is purely because Witter is a smart operator who has all the tools to give a come forward, easily hit fighter like Hatton all the trouble he needs.
The shame is that that takes away what the British public want to see.'"
Worst post, ever. Hatton and his team dont fancy fighting Witter but are more than willing to fight the best pound for pound fighter in the world in Mayweather at a weight unfamilar to Ricky? Witter simply hasn’t done enough to be considered a challenge for Hatton at this stage of his career. The bad mouthing of Hatton has left a bad taste in Rickys mouth, I am sure the last thing he would want to do is give Witter the mass publicty and money on the back of his name.
Plus the garbage about the British public wanting the fight, says who? There are quite a few boxers out there I'd rather see Hatton fight before Witter. The only reason Hatton fans want the fight is to shut the gobby c*nt up.
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| Witter's words are no worse than Hatton's endless bleatings about how the ref "conned" him out of a victory against PBF.
He was beaten senseless in that fight. If the ref did affect his game it certainly didn't cost him the fight.
And most genuine fight fans that I speak to WOULD like to see Hatton vs Witter.
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| Quote ="Mugwump"Witter's words are no worse than Hatton's endless bleatings about how the ref "conned" him out of a victory against PBF.
He was beaten senseless in that fight. If the ref did affect his game it certainly didn't cost him the fight.
And most genuine fight fans that I speak to WOULD like to see Hatton vs Witter.'"
Indeed, for some reason Hatton and his camp though PBF couldn't punch and didn't have an appitite to go to war, the fact was that Hatton was that poor he couldn't even get on top when he tried to get in PBF's face and make it a war.
Witter could make Hatton look a little silly, the reason he won't fight him now is because after all these self proclaimed years of being number one he will look like a fraud if Witter takes him apart.
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| Quote ="Dirty Harry"
Witter could make Hatton look a little silly, the reason he won't fight him now is because after all these self proclaimed years of being number one he will look like a fraud if Witter takes him apart.'"
The reason he won't fight him now is because after the Mayweather fight, he knew exactly who he was going to fight in his next two.
The 'homecoming' fight with a hand picked opponent that will bring out the best in Ricky and rebuild his confidence after his defeat, and then on to realise another of his dreams topping the bill at MSG.
Can't see any way in this World how Witter will make Hatton look silly. He'd be an awkward opponent with his style and Rick has struggled in the past against Southpaws, but to suggest Witter could make him look silly and take him apart is laughable IMO.
For Witter to do that, he'd have to be better than Mayweather IMO, which he clearly isn't!
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| Quote ="Dirty Harry"Hatton and his team have never fancied the Witter fight, that has nothing to do with commercial reasoning, it is purely because Witter is a smart operator who has all the tools to give a come forward, easily hit fighter like Hatton all the trouble he needs.
The shame is that that takes away what the British public want to see.'"
Who has Witter beaten that is any good? Whilst Hatton was beating the likes of Kosta Tsyzu, Juan Urango and Luis Castillo, Witter was fighting next to nobodies such as Lynes and then he just about beat Corley in a borefest. His last fight was better, but Harris is not in the class of Tsyzu, Urango or Castillo.
I've no doubts Ricky would outclass Witter, a guy that is getting hyped up over very little. Torres is a more exciting fighter than Witter and it's someone Ricky will be going for in future, certainly before Witter.
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| Anyone watch the Pac man fight?One of the judges must have dwunker than me to give it to Marquez Its repeated on setanta today,dont ask me when, im off fishing!
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| Quote ="Derek Acorah"Anyone watch the Pac man fight?One of the judges must have dwunker than me to give it to Marquez
Its repeated on setanta today,dont ask me when, im off fishing!'"
I thought Marquez should have got it. He made Pacman look like a chump for most of the fight.
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| Quote ="Chico"I thought Marquez should have got it. He made Pacman look like a chump for most of the fight.'"
Couldn't pick a winner, though Marquez perhaps landed the more telling shots. There'll be some sore heads today, and a couple of plastic surgeons with a lot of work to do. I've not seen that much blood in a ring for some time.
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| Despite a loss, Witter made Zab Judah (when Zab was on the up-and-up) look silly after being given only 14 days notice of the fight.
He's improved out of sight since then (a loss to a big name can often be the catalyst to huge improvement). And he can bang.
Right now there are several question marks against Hatton.
Can he recover mentally from the beating PBF inflicted on him?
Is he in decline? Hatton seems to have gone downhill since the Tszyu fight. Can this be put down solely to fighting out of his weight or not?
Witter is four years older than Hatton, but if anything he's heading in the opposite direction. Some fighters hit their peak in their 30s (Calzaghe and Hopkins spring to mind) whilst others blow out before their 28th birthday.
No way is Hatton vs Witter a forgone conclusion.
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