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| Quote ="Dirtbag"Just laugh mate, I did. Also not including greats like Sammy Baugh, Y.A Tittle, Sid Luckman. Favre has put up alot of good numbers and also put up alot of free balls for defensive backs to feast on. The above list is basically a stat sheet. When it is all said an done Favre won't have many of the records anyhow.'"
I believe Favre has the most interceptions too which is not a surprise seeing as he's been in the League since 1991 ( Atlanta Falcons no less ).
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| Quote ="RedTez"Chambers has been absolute garbage this year. In 07 he was outstanding, 08 was ok and 09 rubbish so far. He was complaining about his lack of involvment on twitter apparently, so no great surprise he's gone.'"
Looks like hes at Kansas City for now at least...
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| Quote ="Dirtbag"Just laugh mate, I did. Also not including greats like Sammy Baugh, Y.A Tittle, Sid Luckman. Favre has put up alot of good numbers and also put up alot of free balls for defensive backs to feast on. The above list is basically a stat sheet. When it is all said an done Favre won't have many of the records anyhow.'"
So what would be your top 5 QB's ever D-Bag.
So far you've said i should have included, Baugh, Tittle, Luckman, Brady, Manning, Montana and Elway. Where do they rank as a top 5? Where is Favre?
As for stat sheet i know Favre is top of most, that is one but not the primary reason he is top of my list, but i have no idea what or how the others rank statisitcally.
Quote ="Dirtbag"I think the Vikings could beat them as they have all the weapons. Also a tad unfair to describe the giants secondary as horrible.'"
Indeed. Vikes could beat them, just like any team potentially could. I'm not suggesting they are unbeatable but was responding to the suggestion that they will lose to a good defensive team. The Colts were suggested. Well i was pointing out they already have beaten better units.
The Giants secondary currently is horrible. Without it's two best players in Ross and Phillips. Big reason why they have lost three on the spin.
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| Quote ="LFCRhino"But he doesnt like him and thinks Aaron Rodgers is better no doubt
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I wouldn't have him in my top 5.
Brady is an excellent QB, better than Rodgers currently. Not even questionable.
That said Rodgers has the potential to be every bit as good and i'd rather keep Rodgers for the next 10 years than have Brady for 3-4.
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I see Edgerrin James has been released again
www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d ... nfirm=true
A lot of people saying New England may be interested for the love of god I hope not
I cant see too many teams knocking down his door unless Cleveland fancy him
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I see Edgerrin James has been released again
www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d ... nfirm=true
A lot of people saying New England may be interested for the love of god I hope not
I cant see too many teams knocking down his door unless Cleveland fancy him
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"
That said Rodgers has the potential to be every bit as good.'"
tea allover my screen.
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| Quote ="Dirtbag"tea allover my screen.'"
Rodgers doesn't have the potential to be as good? why not?
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| Big one for the Super Chargers this weekend. The Giants at the Meadowlands. They're pass D has been rubbish, our rush D IS rubbish without Jamal Williams. Hope we can stop them early and get a couple of scores through the air in an attempt to put pressure on Eli to start throwing and cocking things up for them.
In all honesty, I can see a narrow win for the Giants in this one, with the Chargers receivers having a big day (hope so, I have Gates and Floyd starting in the fantasy league) and the Giants rushing attack going wild, controlling the clock and ultimately, prevailing.
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| Quote ="RedTez"Big one for the Super Chargers this weekend. The Giants at the Meadowlands. They're pass D has been rubbish, our rush D IS rubbish without Jamal Williams. Hope we can stop them early and get a couple of scores through the air in an attempt to put pressure on Eli to start throwing and cocking things up for them.
In all honesty, I can see a narrow win for the Giants in this one, with the Chargers receivers having a big day (hope so, I have Gates and Floyd starting in the fantasy league) and the Giants rushing attack going wild, controlling the clock and ultimately, prevailing.'"
I think you guys will win.
They have a terrible secondary and you'll tear it apart IMO. Eli isn't fantastic when he has to throw a hell of a lot.
Read this earlier:
2007 Patriots
W/L: 7-0
PPG: 39.9
YPG:432.9
Players With TD's: 14
2009 Saints
W/L: 7-0
PPG: 39
YPG: 428.7
Players With TD's: 15
Very similar stats. Which team would you take? I'd have the 09 Saints.
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| I think the 2007 Pats were better defensively that the 2009 Saints.
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| I'd have to take the '07 Pats myself.
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| Quote ="RedTez"I'd have to take the '07 Pats myself.'"
Me too but only because they finished 16-0 The Saints still have a long way to go to match it, personally I dont think they will but if they do it would be fantastic but as we proved it doesnt matter how many games you win or records you break, there is only 1 game that matters and we blew it.
I think the Saints will lose a couple of games before the season is through and it will help them in a way because they will have less pressure on them...
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| Quote ="LFCRhino"Me too but only because they finished 16-0 The Saints still have a long way to go to match it, personally I dont think they will but if they do it would be fantastic but as we proved it doesnt matter how many games you win or records you break, there is only 1 game that matters and we blew it.
I think the Saints will lose a couple of games before the season is through and it will help them in a way because they will have less pressure on them...'"
The issue isn't that you went 16-0 it's you both started 7-0. (Personally i think the Saints will go 15-1)
I think the Saints are a more balanced, and better, overall team the the 07 Pats.
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"The issue isn't that you went 16-0 it's you both started 7-0. (Personally i think the Saints will go 15-1)
I think the Saints are a more balanced, and better, overall team the the 07 Pats.'"
I know that but the point I was making was that the Pats did it consistently for the whole season, I cant see the Saints doing that especially with the amount of points they give up
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"The issue isn't that you went 16-0 it's you both started 7-0. (Personally i think the Saints will go 15-1)
I think the Saints are a more balanced, and better, overall team the the 07 Pats.'"
0-17 is the future.
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| How does a team go 0-17?
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| Quote ="spooky"How does a team go 0-17?'"
Losing in their bye week, its the way forward!
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| Quote ="MSH"Losing in their bye week, its the way forward!'"
Now that's committment.
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| Quote ="spooky"Now that's committment.
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| Quote ="MSH"Losing in their bye week, its the way forward!'"
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| Im sure the Lions will be the first to go 0-18 when the season gets extended or at least give it their best shot !!!
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| Quote ="LFCRhino"Im sure the Lions will be the first to go 0-18 when the season gets extended !!!'"
The crazy thing about the Bucs is that there isnt that much different in terms of personell in comparison to last year. Brooks, Garcia, Galloway Adams have all moved and the loss of Monte Kiffin is a huge loss also. I think they could sneak a couple of wins between now and the end of the season.
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| i cant see us winning tbh The offence looks poop (no change really) But with the loss of Kiffin even the defence is letting the easy yards go and not playing with the same intensity i cant see us winning
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| Quote ="oggy123"i cant see us winning tbh The offence looks poop (no change really) But with the loss of Kiffin even the defence is letting the easy yards go and not playing with the same intensity i cant see us winning
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| So tempted to start Hasselbeck today against Detroit. But then again the Giants secondary has been struggling badly so Rivers could very well be in for a field day. Decisions, Decisions
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