This is a funny thread.

but you do say United get all the decisions.

glad you are enjoying it.

Arsenal v Middlesbrough line-ups:

Arsenal: Almunia, Eboue, Toure, Silvestre, Gibbs, Walcott, Denilson, Fabregas, Nasri, Arshavin, Bendtner.
Subs: Fabianski, Diaby, Sagna, Vela, Song Billong, Djourou, Adebayor.

Middlesbrough: Jones, McMahon, Wheater, Huth, Taylor, O'Neil, Bates, Sanli, Downing, Aliadiere, King.
Subs: Turnbull, Hoyte, Digard, Emnes, Alves, Adam Johnson, Grounds.

Referee: Chris Foy (Merseyside)

do you mind not interupting our juvenile bickering with useful information?

quite a few interested when the penalty wasn't given vs everton in fa cup semi

I thought i would try and derail you all and do it by going unnoticed...

Flipper, when you have admitted that the penalty wouldn't have been given to Tottenham at the other end, why ?

When you answer this, you will see the reason why the game is corrupt. Maybe I am being harsh pinpointing Utd but that is where we have been so ridiculously hard treated in recent seasons.

Would the decision have been given to Tottenham if the game was at White Hart Lane ? I doubt that as well.

So if Liverpool fans are sure that Manchester United have bought the league by bribing the FA, then what the fook are you putting Champions League games in there for?



Manchester United have to have "bribed" UEFA, not the FA, you nugget!




And this has got to do with the Premier League how? The same referees in the Champions League are not going to referee in the Premier League, so your argument is useless, especially as we are already out of the Champions League.




Means nothing.



An improvement in Liverpool's discipline. Makes for good reading.



Hmmm, Friedel got sent off twice in the same game?? Fook me, who was reffing? Graham Poll?



However, what your stats fail to say above is that out of those 8 games, over half of them Liverpool were already leading when the sendings off occurred. Liverpool were only in a losing position once against Man City and twice drawing (Arsenal and Chelsea)

Vidic off - Liverpool were leading 2-1
Vidic off - Liverpool were leading 2-1
Cahill off - Liverpool were leading 2-0
Friedel off - Liverpool were leading 4-0
Folan off - Liverpool were leading 1-0

Zabeleta off - Liverpool were losing 2-1.

Adabayor off - Liverpool were drawing 1-1 (that was the final score)
Lampard off - Liverpool were drawing 0-0 (only scored both goals in last minute of game)



Is that a fact?

33 90 minute games equates to 2970 minutes.

A quarter of that equals 742.5 minutes. However, the total amount of minutes that Liverpool's opponents played with 10 men equates to a total of 177 minutes, which is considerably less than a quarter.

It actually works out at just under 6% of the time. Don't know where you got these figures from to base your argument on, but they are friggin' awful!

the side with the most points


as wire 85 quite rightly said

Must admit, him and Vidic do not look upto that tag.

Saying that, who or what defines "hard".

So you're ignoring any rational answers that get put in front of you, then?

Never mind. Just go and lie down in a darkened room for a few hours.

I said it was a C&P

so are you suggesting united have bribed both the FA and UEFA?

it was meant to serve to illustrate those that don't watch what is happening that amazingly United aren't the only team to have been awarded a penalty ever - given that RAWK seems to be awash with looneytunes who buy into the corruption line and they are finding their way onto 5 live now, where even Alan Greene gives them short shrift.

Had United had 10 or whatever it is) players sent off against them this season it would be another sign of the conspiracy...

I don't know if your stats are more or less reliable than the ones I c&p - thats not a dig , i don't know, and don't have time or the inclination to work it out BUT

Liverpool have had lots of players sent off against them.
Liverpool have scored lots of late goals (some even in injury time)


maybe it's because liverpool have become a decent team, and not some fit up - which is probably the case with some of the anti united based stats that get wheeled out - pens at old trafford, well most of the oppiosition don't attempt to venture out of their own half, so they are unlikely to get a pen.

Stirlingshire Saint has got to be a WUM?

Surely?

got to nip down to the cricket club, back for more b\tching later.

The point I am making is that they shouldn't be happening anywhere. We were disgracefully denied a goal at OT 2/3 years ago. What has been done since to eradicate it ? Not a damn thing, concluding with another result taken off us at the same ground yesterday.



A total refusal to answer the question. Typical Man Utd fan.



Utter rubbish. The ball change direction at a right angle whilst Carrick was running forward. The fanciful idea that he would have given the same at the other end says it all. Why didn't he send Gomes off if he was sure it was a penalty when he was therefore the last man ?



You are not looking at anything rationally. You are looking at it from the side of the Man Utd, the benefactor of so many ridiculous decisions. I don't mind a mistake, they happen, it just seems they happen extremely often to sides in the lower echelons of the league when they visit places like Old Trafford. It is about time it was stopped, it costs clubs too many points and too much money.

I'm not surprised you're appalled at the way Spurs just capitulated. It's not as if Spurs collapsing against Man U is a rare thing though is it. What was the excuse last time it happened.



Have a word with yourself, that yesterday wasn't even the worst decision to go against Spurs at OT, I remember a ball going 2 yards over the line not too many moons ago.

And as for not looking like scoring, since when has that had any effect on whether a team goes on to score. Christ, all the top teams have done that this season, "not looked like scoring" then gone on to do that. It's football, not the pools panel.



No he didn't. He may have got them a goal or should I say a chance for them to score a goal, but it was down to both teams what happened after that.



Again, get a bloody grip.



It happens, week in, week out. Some you win, some you lose. Jesus, you'd think you were the only team to have ever been wronged by a referee.



Quite easily I would imagine if you are mature and rational about it.



And when you say you turned the game off after the penno went in, I don't believe you. I think you should apologise to the rest of the forum for blatant lying

Point to me where I have said that.



It's up to people what they want to post, it's their opinion, no-one else has to agree with it.

And anyway, Alan Green is a tvvat, so that argument won't wash with me.



Well, since I picked holes in this "info" that you cut and pasted, then I guess mine would be more reliable.

And since you say you don't have the inclination to work things out just shows to me that you like throwing statements in there without having the facts to back it up. If that is wrong, the fair enough, but that's what it sounds like from my side of things.

As for this sendings off = late goals thing, I'll work it out when I get back from the Rugby.

pot, kettle and indeed black

I am looking at it rationally. Like I've said, decisons go against Manchester United as well as for them. You, as a Spurs fan, cannot see that and are looking at the matter purely based on incidents that have gone against you.

You could argue the decision yesterday will cost Liverpool more than it's cost Spurs, due to the title race. And yet even the Liverpool fans on here are looking at the incident with more sense than you are.

Again, we lost out on an FA Cup Final place due to a worse penalty decision. Do you see any of us wetting ourselves over it?

I do support Hull...FC.....why should i gloryhunt a team i dont like....they are in a slump and are hanging on in there but i can see them going down.

if he had jumped on the hull city wouldnt that have made him a gloryhunter?

Glad to see you've got that much pride in your own city and the clubs who represent it. Maybe if more of you got behind your clubs' foremost sporting side (yes, they are, seeing as they're playing in the most high profile sporting league in the country, if not Europe and the world) then they could be more successful and bring in large benefits to Hull as a whole.

Mind you, I won't hold my breath.

Arsenal 1-0 Middlesbrough

Cesc Fabregas (26)...

He supports Hull FC, but according to their forum didn't go to the willows last night.



True fan.