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| Impressive 'shot downing' from Stevie Mbe. Someone should ask him:-
'Steve, you wouldn't start the night this way, so why end it like that?'
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| Quote ="Ian [77"Impressive 'shot downing' from Stevie Mbe. Someone should ask him:-
'Steve, you wouldn't start the night this way, so why end it like that?''"
Awful dance moves, however.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Get him locked up'"
You Mancs would love that, it would give you a chance of retaining the title.
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| Quote ="El Ninho"You Mancs would love that, it would give you a chance of retaining the title.'"
You scousers would already have your excuse for another failure lined up as well.
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| Quote ="El Ninho"You Mancs would love that, it would give you a chance of retaining the title.'"
Yeah cos he's featured in all Liverpool's recent title wins...
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"There are two guilty verdicts for a start. The guy who threw the elbow and his brave mate who followed that up with a barrage of punches.
From the Sky News report 5 of Gerrard's mates have all plead guilty to affray, Gerrard is the only one who has plead not guilty.'"
That was Gerrard.
Hope he gets sent down for that, doubt he will though because of who he is.
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"That was Gerrard.
Hope he gets sent down for that, doubt he will though because of who he is.
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TBH I cannot agree that he should be sent to jail for that.
IMO it's pretty bad for Gerrard. He was the person who instigated the argument. He went back with his friend 6 minutes later and carried it on. His friend then threw a cheap shot with his elbow out of the blue and then Gerrard starts throwing punches at someone who obviously going to be a bit dazed and defenceless. Gerrard then pleads not guilty and seems to be claiming self defence.
While I think Gerrard's attack was cowardly and stupid, I cannot say that it was bad enough for him to be sent down for it. AFAIK it's his first offence, so community service, a small fine and a strong statement from the judge about what a cowardly act he's committed is enough. I reckon there'll be more than enough evidence for a private prosecution from the victim, so Gerrard will probably have to shell out 20 grand to save it from going through another trial.
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"TBH I cannot agree that he should be sent to jail for that.
IMO it's pretty bad for Gerrard. He was the person who instigated the argument. He went back with his friend 6 minutes later and carried it on. His friend then threw a cheap shot with his elbow out of the blue and then Gerrard starts throwing punches at someone who obviously going to be a bit dazed and defenceless. Gerrard then pleads not guilty and seems to be claiming self defence.
While I think Gerrard's attack was cowardly and stupid, I cannot say that it was bad enough for him to be sent down for it. AFAIK it's his first offence, so community service, a small fine and a strong statement from the judge about what a cowardly act he's committed is enough. I reckon there'll be more than enough evidence for a private prosecution from the victim, so Gerrard will probably have to shell out 20 grand to save it from going through another trial.'"
I think punching somebody repeatedly when they cannot defend themselves because they've already been struck is extremely cowardly and is the type of thing that the courts need to start handing out stricter punishments for.
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Oh Stevie. Showing yourself up for what you are. Never mind lad. Unfortunately, the fact you've denied everything when it's as clear as daylight that was you sticking the uppercuts in after your mate has smashed the guy in the face may well all over your chances of a lenient sentence. As far as I'm aware, if you admit guilt you've more chance of getting off lightly than if you contest it, in which case figures in the public eye may find themselves made examples of.
Unless they hand it over to the RFL that is. They can spot a punch but deem it accidental at the same time. Might be his best defence.
Quote ="Robbie Rotten"Says underneath the video:
After about six minutes Gerrard returned to the victim who was sitting alone at the bar and allegedly confronted him with the words: "Who the f*** do you think you are?"'"
He might as well have strutted up and said, "do you know who I am??"
Even as a United fan I've always held a grudging respect for Stevie G. I aint pretending United players are perfect - far from it - but Stevie boy has been caught red-handed in a cheap and cowardly attack and he deserves everything he gets. And I'd say the same for anyone.
My God, Liverpool's next failed title attempt is hanging by a thread already!!
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| Quote ="El Ninho"You Mancs would love that, it would give you a chance of retaining the title.'"
Christ, United have won 11 titles in the last 17 years (I think) including 3 in a row twice, one of which is the current run. I hardly think we need Liverpool's tiny foreheaded captain to get locked up to give us 'a chance'.
Liverpool on the other hand haven't won a league title since Michael Jackson was black, George Michael was straight and Russ Abbott was on TV. On that basis, I'm not sure one player is the be all and end all to either team's chances - United are trying to make history (very difficult), Liverpool are trying to change it (similarly tough).
As for $tevie Mbe - if he does get found guilty, I would expect him to get dry humped (metaphorically) by the Judge for putting us all to the expense of a trial when everyone else took responsibility for their actions. If he goes to prison, he may well get dry humped literally. Then we'll see if he's 'really f*****ng hard', never mind whether he's 'scoring from 40 years'.
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| Quote ="Ian [77"Christ, United have won 11 titles in the last 17 years (I think) including 3 in a row twice, one of which is the current run. I hardly think we need Liverpool's tiny foreheaded captain to get locked up to give us 'a chance'.
Liverpool on the other hand haven't won a league title since Michael Jackson was black, George Michael was straight and Russ Abbott was on TV. On that basis, I'm not sure one player is the be all and end all to either team's chances - United are trying to make history (very difficult), Liverpool are trying to change it (similarly tough).
As for $tevie Mbe - if he does get found guilty, I would expect him to get dry humped (metaphorically) by the Judge for putting us all to the expense of a trial when everyone else took responsibility for their actions. If he goes to prison, he may well get dry humped literally. Then we'll see if he's 'really f*****ng hard', never mind whether he's 'scoring from 40 years'.'"
That's the important factor, his mates have pleaded guilty and he has not. If he is then found guilty the punishment could potentially be worse. I don't even see how he can defend himself for what he did, he is just taking the p*ss.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"That's the important factor, his mates have pleaded guilty and he has not. If he is then found guilty the punishment could potentially be worse. I don't even see how he can defend himself for what he did, he is just taking the p*ss.'"
there are many witnesses due to come forward to state that they know he was asleep at home.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"That's the important factor, his mates have pleaded guilty and he has not. If he is then found guilty the punishment could potentially be worse. I don't even see how he can defend himself for what he did, he is just taking the p*ss.'"
The thing he, he won't be defending himself for what he did. He'll be defended by the Steven Gerrard of the legal profession.
I reckon his lawyer will pull a "Gerrard" in the 90th minute of the case like Gerrard did against West Ham in the FA Cup final. And then the farker will manage to get the case to "penalties" like Liverpool did.
And we all know what the scousers are like with penalties.
I don't think Gerrard will be sent down anyway. It's not in the public interest for a first time offender to be sent to prison for such a minor offence. Yes, it was a cowardly attack and it deserves strong punishment, but it wasn't of a severity to deserve a prison sentence (well at least not from the CCTV footaage we've seen).
Just think of it this way. The prisons are already overcrowded and the prison service has enough to deal with without having a 50m pound footballer who they have to protect.
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| Quote ="flipper"there are many witnesses due to come forward to state that they know he was asleep at home.'"
Or that it was actually them in the CCTV footage, and not Gerrard.
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| Gerrard is innocent, carrying on the great tradition of scouse injustice, surely the other bloke head butted Gerrards hand injuring poor Stevie in the process. I hope he doesn't get convicted, can't be doing with all the appeals, self pity etc.
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| I love all that "hold me back" malarkey footballers do!
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| Quote ="Fresh Prince of Chesh-air"I love all that "hold me back" malarkey footballers do!
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The way they run behind he person as well, Nat Wood would have been good at football, one hit....bang.
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| LOL at last few pages of "steviegate"
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| Quote ="MD7"Gerrard is innocent, carrying on the great tradition of scouse injustice, surely the other bloke head butted Gerrards hand injuring poor Stevie in the process. I hope he doesn't get convicted, can't be doing with all the appeals, self pity etc.'"
Mins silence
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| Quote ="richardviking"Is it my poor eyesight or is Gerrard the guy on the left on that video?
It's on the skynews website.'"
I can't tell they all seem to have the same jumper and shirt thing on, interesting these "boxers punches" he threw when I have heard that in he first statement the manc said Gerrard never hit him.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"I can't tell they all seem to have the same jumper and shirt thing on, interesting these "boxers punches" he threw when I have heard that in he first statement the manc said Gerrard never hit him.'"
I think the "boxer's punches" comment was the prosecution lawyer. It's his job to say that the light grey shade you see is actually the blackest of black, on top of five coats of black, painted on a very black surface.
It's possible that the victim didn't actually know it was Gerrard who was hitting him. He could have been so stunned by the initial elbow to the head that he thought that both the initial hit and the barrage afterwards were done by the same person.
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"That was Gerrard.
Hope he gets sent down for that, doubt he will though because of who he is. icon_rolleyes.gif'"
And because of his previous good character.
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"That was Gerrard.
Hope he gets sent down for that, doubt he will though because of who he is. icon_rolleyes.gif'"
And because of his previous good character.
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"I think punching somebody repeatedly when they cannot defend themselves because they've already been struck is extremely cowardly and is the type of thing that the courts need to start handing out stricter punishments for.'"
Joey Barton anyone.
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"I think the "boxer's punches" comment was the prosecution lawyer. It's his job to say that the light grey shade you see is actually the blackest of black, on top of five coats of black, painted on a very black surface.
It's possible that the victim didn't actually know it was Gerrard who was hitting him. He could have been so stunned by the initial elbow to the head that he thought that both the initial hit and the barrage afterwards were done by the same person.'"
Thats what I think so if his first statement says it wasn't Gerrard hitting him he must of changed it and I think whoever told him it was Gerrard will be called up in court as a witness I reckon.
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