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| Quote ="Codarmysaint"The same Chelsea who can afford whoever they want.'"
If your trying to compare yourself to a wealthy team then surely your QPR. Not in the top tier of your respective league structure and taking players from the division above by overpaying players.
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| Quote ="Codarmysaint"The same Chelsea who can afford whoever they want.'"
There's a difference between "being able to afford" and "being able to pay for".
I could probably find a way to "pay" for a flash sports car. Whether I could "afford" it is a completely different animal.
Again, what happens if (heaven forbid) Andy Piley gets hit by a tram on the way home from work tonight? Where does this leave Fleetwood tomorrow morning? I'm guessing, not in a good place.
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| Bottom of the league on saturday. Should be an easy win for the cod army. Just gotta hope Southport slip up.
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| Quote ="Codarmysaint"Bottom of the league on saturday. Should be an easy win for the cod army. Just gotta hope Southport slip up.'"
As easy as it was early in the season?
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| Quote ="El Pac Carnegie"As easy as it was early in the season?'"
This time round it will be. Im going for a 4-1 win. BSN's number 1 striker, Adam Warlow with a hattrick and the ex manchester united reserve team player, Jamie Mullan with the 4th.
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| Quote ="tommy"Apparently Fleetwood want to appeal the Farsley Celtic results being expunged...good luck with that
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To quote my self , York City and 9 others have appealed about chesters result. The reason I find it crazy is because the conference are to stupid to change it or think of the right way to deal with these situations. It is, unfortunatly, chasing a lost course.
However, each club is spot on with their appeal, ive said from day 1 its a joke.
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| Quote ="tommy"To quote my self
, York City and 9 others have appealed about chesters result. The reason I find it crazy is because the conference are to stupid to change it or think of the right way to deal with these situations. It is, unfortunatly, chasing a lost course.
However, each club is spot on with their appeal, ive said from day 1 its a joke.'"
What else would you do? There is no other way to deal with it unfortunately. Apart from doing some sort of check before the season begins to ensure clubs can get through it. You can't award teams wins as goal difference may come into it and obviously you can't have teams playing different amounts of games throughout the season. I'm a York fan and even though its hindered us i think the right thing has been done.
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| Quote ="El Pac Carnegie"What else would you do? There is no other way to deal with it unfortunately. Apart from doing some sort of check before the season begins to ensure clubs can get through it. You can't award teams wins as goal difference may come into it and obviously you can't have teams playing different amounts of games throughout the season. I'm a York fan and even though its hindered us i think the right thing has been done.'"
So why are bookings received during the game still standing? We've lost players to suspension because of bookings picked up against Farsley.
Its because the league dont like us thats why
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| Bookings, suspensions, bonuses, league points gained fairly etc. There's to many things that HAVE happend to just turn around and go...'meh, it never happend, lets just pretend they were never here'.
Fleetwood as i understand were 7 points at the top having fairly beaten a Farsley team that turned up for a game of football twice, but are now 1 point at the top. Same with City, we gained 3 point from one game vs Chester, Luton got 2 from 2 games, both fairly played against a team willing to play their best. And we lose out on 4 points. Its just silly that's all. 2 points to each team who hasnt played them and no effect on the goal difference would be fair(er) for me.
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| Quote ="tommy"Bookings, suspensions, bonuses, league points gained fairly etc. There's to many things that HAVE happend to just turn around and go...'meh, it never happend, lets just pretend they were never here'.
Fleetwood as i understand were 7 points at the top having fairly beaten a Farsley team that turned up for a game of football twice, but are now 1 point at the top. Same with City, we gained 3 point from one game vs Chester, Luton got 2 from 2 games, both fairly played against a team willing to play their best. And we lose out on 4 points. Its just silly that's all. 2 points to each team who hasnt played them and no effect on the goal difference would be fair(er) for me.'"
You can't do that though. It isn't fair on the teams who are left to play the team that's been expunged. Both ends of the table are tight so it isn't fair to have these unplayed games declared as any result. All this moaning about the teams having to pay these bonuses etc. doesn't wash with me. They still got a crowd through the turnstiles. The bookings things is the only grey area in my opinion. The precedent has been set that the results should be expunged.
I'm confused as to why at least 4 of these 10 clubs in the BSP vote to send Chester packing when they knew that the standard thing to do is expunge results?
Codarmysaint get over yourself. There are another 21 clubs that are affected by Farsley going under. They will all be treated the same as yourself. I would of thought a club of your stature should be in a similar to position to Newport County? What with your league players and top class stadia.
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| Quote ="El Pac Carnegie"
I'm confused as to why at least 4 of these 10 clubs in the BSP vote to send Chester packing when they knew that the standard thing to do is expunge results?
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Aye i did wonder that to.
Its going to be an on going arguement with both sides raising valid points and the conference aren't going to be changing owt. Its just sad that its come to this more so for Chester City obviously but things need sorting correctly in future before all this happens.
Here's to a vital 3 point against AFC Wimbledon tomorrow. C'mon!
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| Quote ="El Pac Carnegie"You can't do that though. It isn't fair on the teams who are left to play the team that's been expunged. Both ends of the table are tight so it isn't fair to have these unplayed games declared as any result. All this moaning about the teams having to pay these bonuses etc. doesn't wash with me. They still got a crowd through the turnstiles. The bookings things is the only grey area in my opinion. The precedent has been set that the results should be expunged.
I'm confused as to why at least 4 of these 10 clubs in the BSP vote to send Chester packing when they knew that the standard thing to do is expunge results?
Codarmysaint get over yourself. There are another 21 clubs that are affected by Farsley going under. They will all be treated the same as yourself. I would of thought a club of your stature should be in a similar to position to Newport County? What with your league players and top class stadia.'"
Except they arent treated the same as ourselves. We won both matches and are now paying the price because of it. No matter, Piley already has the support of over half the league in his appeal and his representatives (im not talking about some tin pot lawyers here) are very confident the FA will overturn the decision.
I cant wait to get out of this joke of a league
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| Quote ="Codarmysaint"Except they arent treated the same as ourselves. We won both matches and are now paying the price because of it. No matter, Piley already has the support of over half the league in his appeal and his representatives (im not talking about some tin pot lawyers here) are very confident the FA will overturn the decision.
I cant wait to get out of this joke of a league'"
So you are the only team to lose points are you? It's not ideal but it is the only fair way to do things. Say you finish joint top with Southport after they have been awarded this 0-0 victory. You take the title by 1 goal on goal difference. What to say they wouldn't of beaten Farsley? This denies them the championship. Indeed what if they beat you by a point after this 0-0 victory? Whats to say they wouldn't of lost or drawn? There really is no other fair alternative.
Oh and have you not noticed the same thing is happening in the division above? Team gone under results expunged. If it happens again next year will it be another conspiracy to keep the football league standard Fleetwood in non-league?
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| Quote ="El Pac Carnegie"So you are the only team to lose points are you? It's not ideal but it is the only fair way to do things. Say you finish joint top with Southport after they have been awarded this 0-0 victory. You take the title by 1 goal on goal difference. What to say they wouldn't of beaten Farsley? This denies them the championship. Indeed what if they beat you by a point after this 0-0 victory? Whats to say they wouldn't of lost or drawn? There really is no other fair alternative.
Oh and have you not noticed the same thing is happening in the division above? Team gone under results expunged. If it happens again next year will it be another conspiracy to keep the football league standard Fleetwood in non-league?'"
I have just looked at Farsleys result and see they have already played Southport twice. The point still stands however. Replace the top 2 with say the teams in the relegation dog fight. It is the only fair way to deal with the situation and far from a conspiracy. Is it not fairer that the teams left in the division have a league table at the end of the season will still represent what all within the league actually achieved against each other, rather than that plus what some achieved against one team, and presuming what the others would? Only way to do it without it getting silly. To re-instate the results would be like using the pools panel to decide postponed games.
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| Absolutely dominating Harrogate at the moment but cant score :/
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| Southport winning 2-1
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| If your not at the game there is commentary on the game in Radio York. Only 125 Fleetwood fans apparently. Thought you would of taken more?
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| Well Harrogate are there for the taking. 2 players off injured in the 1st 35 minutes, i suppose when your struggling those things go against you
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| Ive got radio york on
125 fans is fantastic for this division. We get about a taxi full of away fans with the exception of FC United who brought about 100
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| Quote ="Codarmysaint"Ive got radio york on
125 fans is fantastic for this division. We get about a taxi full of away fans with the exception of FC United who brought about 100'"
Fair enough. To be fair we have had away teams bring less than 20 this season. Sounds like Harrogate are starting to come into it. Cue a Fleetwood goal
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| Quote ="El Pac Carnegie"Fair enough. To be fair we have had away teams bring less than 20 this season. Sounds like Harrogate are starting to come into it. Cue a Fleetwood goal
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Whos your team?
0-0 half time
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| Quote ="Codarmysaint"Whos your team?
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York City. Game off due to waterlogged pitch. Hence why the Harrogate-Fleetwood game is the main game.
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| My info was wrong, Southport are now 2-2
COME ON FLEETWOOD!!!
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