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| Quote ="Dunbar"If you are going to comment on the relationship between the two codes in the UK could I suggest that you do some research and begin to understand the history. When you have done that, you will see how false your assumptions are'"
Suggesting Rugby Union is going to try and 'kill' Rugby League is bizarre.
Its like suggesting those people that like to eat apples are going to rise up as one and declare total war on those people who eat pears.
Seriously.
Stop being so paranoid.
Rugby League will carry on being popular with those people that like it.
Rugby Union will carry on being popular with those people that like it.
I seriously think you people lie in bed at night thinking up things to worry about.
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| Quote ="Dunbar"
On the topic of crowds, I have seen some very worrying attendances over the first few weeks of the Union season (worrying for them) - it looks like Sale, Newcastle, Leeds, Saracens etc are in for a tough season'"
The Saracens crowd looked weirdly low, absolute mystery. I think Cj and Catalancs picked up on Newcastle and I also noted Gloucester's drop in attendances.
I doubt that any will get into financial difficulties, but the RFU might think again about its expansionism.
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Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"Suggesting Rugby Union is going to try and 'kill' Rugby League is bizarre.'"
OK, thanks for the insight Barry
Anyway, change of topic, I’ve just finished reading this great work of fiction, you should give it a try www.amazon.co.uk/Forbidden-Game- ... 1901347052
Oh, one more thought for you... "Those Who Forget History Are Doomed to Repeat It" George Santayana
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Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"Suggesting Rugby Union is going to try and 'kill' Rugby League is bizarre.'"
OK, thanks for the insight Barry
Anyway, change of topic, I’ve just finished reading this great work of fiction, you should give it a try www.amazon.co.uk/Forbidden-Game- ... 1901347052
Oh, one more thought for you... "Those Who Forget History Are Doomed to Repeat It" George Santayana
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Quote ="Dunbar"OK, thanks for the insight Barry
Anyway, change of topic, I’ve just finished reading this great work of fiction, you should give it a try www.amazon.co.uk/Forbidden-Game- ... 1901347052
Oh, one more thought for you... "Those Who Forget History Are Doomed to Repeat It" George Santayana'"
The line 'the collaborationist Vichy government' is possibly the best indication of who was responsible for the demise of Rugby League in France.
Breaking News.
I think banning Rugby League is quite far down on the current british governments 'to do' list... probably a few places below 'sort the economy out'
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Quote ="Dunbar"OK, thanks for the insight Barry
Anyway, change of topic, I’ve just finished reading this great work of fiction, you should give it a try www.amazon.co.uk/Forbidden-Game- ... 1901347052
Oh, one more thought for you... "Those Who Forget History Are Doomed to Repeat It" George Santayana'"
The line 'the collaborationist Vichy government' is possibly the best indication of who was responsible for the demise of Rugby League in France.
Breaking News.
I think banning Rugby League is quite far down on the current british governments 'to do' list... probably a few places below 'sort the economy out'
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"Suggesting Rugby Union is going to try and 'kill' Rugby League is bizarre.
Its like suggesting those people that like to eat apples are going to rise up as one and declare total war on those people who eat pears.
Seriously.
Stop being so paranoid.
Rugby League will carry on being popular with those people that like it.
Rugby Union will carry on being popular with those people that like it.
I seriously think you people lie in bed at night thinking up things to worry about.'"
Barry what you have to realise myself and Urmston Wire have obviously had bad experinces where union is concerned.
And also like Dunbar has said there is a lot of history between RL and union(most of it bad) dating right back to 1895 to the present day.
For me RL is the best sport in the world and always will be but when I get abuse on this site from fellow RL fans and union fans for having a go at union they jump on my back and call me bigoted and once I was called a bell end(which in laughed at BTW) and yet they don't understand what I went through at the time.
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"The line 'the collaborationist Vichy government' is possibly the best indication of who was responsible for the demise of Rugby League in France.'"
In fact in 2002, the French Government found it was rugby union.
ARLT.
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Quote ="Dunbar"OK, thanks for the insight Barry
Anyway, change of topic, I’ve just finished reading this great work of fiction, you should give it a try www.amazon.co.uk/Forbidden-Game- ... 1901347052
Oh, one more thought for you... "Those Who Forget History Are Doomed to Repeat It" George Santayana'"
He is a union apologist or at best an ARLT.
Waste of time.
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Quote ="Dunbar"OK, thanks for the insight Barry
Anyway, change of topic, I’ve just finished reading this great work of fiction, you should give it a try www.amazon.co.uk/Forbidden-Game- ... 1901347052
Oh, one more thought for you... "Those Who Forget History Are Doomed to Repeat It" George Santayana'"
He is a union apologist or at best an ARLT.
Waste of time.
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"The line 'the collaborationist Vichy government' is possibly the best indication of who was responsible for the demise of Rugby League in France.
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It's a pretty sad admission but I know quite a lot about the Vichy regime and this is the story as far as my research has shown.
Vichy banned all professional sport as 'corrupting'. However, only one sport was banned outright, and that was rugby league.
Now, Marshal Petain was not a huge fan of sport anyway, so he wasn't particularly bothered, nor was the real power behind the throne, Pierre Laval.
However, the leading collaborationist writer, Robert Braisillach, was a big RU fan and hated RL with a passion. He and his colleagues at the French RU lobbied Petain and Laval to ban RL and turn over its assets to union. The name 'rugby league' remained banned even after the game was re-legalised by De Gaulle, and the name remained banned until 1991.
So yes, RU actively tried to destroy RL before. Not under Nazi pressure or Petain's pressure.
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| Quote ="cjhatesunion" I get abuse on this site from fellow RL fans and union fans for having a go at union they jump on my back and call me bigoted and once I was called a bell end(which in laughed at BTW) and yet they don't understand what I went through at the time.'"
I dont wish to trivialise whatever it was you went through with Rugby Union.. but I'm genuinely interested as to what it might have been that scarred you for life. Tell me.. I promise not to call you a 'Bell End'
If its really embarrassing (or of a sexual nature) feel free to pm me or drop me an email at the address below in total confidence.
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| Quote ="Urmston Wire"Plus, I've occasionally had abuse from unionistas if I've had a Wire or [size=150England RL[/sizetop on, and I know I'm not the only one.'"
You deserved every thing you got
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"You deserved every thing you got
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I'd have claimed the shirt was punishment enough!
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"I dont wish to trivialise whatever it was you went through with Rugby Union.. but I'm genuinely interested as to what it might have been that scarred you for life. Tell me.. I promise not to call you a 'Bell End'
If its really embarrassing (or of a sexual nature) feel free to pm me or drop me an email at the address below in total confidence.'"
Highly revealing post about yourself Bazza
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"I dont wish to trivialise whatever it was you went through with Rugby Union.. but I'm genuinely interested as to what it might have been that scarred you for life. Tell me.. I promise not to call you a 'Bell End'
If its really embarrassing (or of a sexual nature) feel free to pm me or drop me an email at the address below in total confidence.'"
I have said in the past on this site what I went through.
I don't wish to repeat it Barry if you don't mind.
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| Quote ="cjhatesunion"I have said in the past on this site what I went through.
I don't wish to repeat it Barry if you don't mind.
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Havent seen that mate
Someone said it involved Martin Johnson, Jonny Wilkinson, half the All Blacks side from 2007 and and a bar of soap?
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"Havent seen that mate
Someone said it involved Martin Johnson, Jonny Wilkinson, half the All Blacks side from 2007 and and a bar of soap?'"
No mate not that one.
It happened to me a long time ago when I was young.
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| Two home games into the season for Sale Sharks. 7,815 attendance for the first and 6,026 tonight
Looks like the North West public has decided that premiership RU is not for them
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| Quote ="Dunbar"Two home games into the season for Sale Sharks. 7,815 attendance for the first and 6,026 tonight
Looks like the North West public has decided that premiership RU is not for them'"
Early days yet.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Early days yet.'"
True, but dropping 1800 off your opening match, when one of the big names is in town, is odd.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Early days yet.'"
Average last year at home 7,609. You would expect the first home game of the season to be one of the big crowds. It may be early days but I would worry if I was managing the club
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| Has anyone else noticed that despite being incredibly unpopular, boring, going to take rugby league over blah blah blah this Rugby union thread is 31 pages long?
And thats on a Rugby LEAGUE forum!!!
poor cjhatesunion will be having a nervous breakdown at those stats
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"Has anyone else noticed that despite being incredibly unpopular, boring, going to take rugby league over blah blah blah this Rugby union thread is 31 pages long?
And thats on a Rugby LEAGUE forum!!!
poor cjhatesunion will be having a nervous breakdown at those stats'"
No Barry I am loving it,the more RL fans realise that union is 5h1t the better for me.
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| Wasps vs Leicester today – Wasps first home game of the season at Adams Park, attendance 8,006. Wasps average last year was 8,543 (games played at Adams Park) with the game against Leicester their highest at 10,116
Exeter today – 7,326 after their first home game of the season attracted 9,562
More worrying stats I think
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| Quote ="Urmston Wire"True, but dropping 1800 off your opening match, when one of the big names is in town, is odd.'"
Indeed - Quins was the third highest attendance for Sale last year at 8,172 - 6,026 this year, lower than any attendance last season
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| Sale's attendance last night doesn't look to bad when you compare it today's crowds.
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| And 90% of posts are negative.
The other 10% are Mackenzie's.
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