OK. I was asked why I didn't like Everton fans on the whole and I answered. I have nothing aginst you personally, or any Everton fan. It's just a fact that actions by a clubs fanbase have an effect on how the club is viewed.

that's more like it and just remind me soft lad, who finished second last season? beating united and chelski home and away in the process........

just remind me big lad who at 1 stage in the season werre about 9 points clear then preceded too bottle it ??

Shame you couldn't beat Stoke hey?

the team that came from 2 down at easylands to win 3-2

So, when we go to OT, as you said you had an experience, we take 2,700-3,000 fans maximum and it is the majority of Everton fans that are idiots? given out of that 2,700-3,000 it was on coach of around 50 people that threw stuff - that makes a majority?

come on tez don't fuel his delusion that citeh are a good team........

Bloody hell finger post you managed all these great achievments and STILL BOTTLED IT

stop it!!!!!!

I appreciate that but you guys don't exactly cover yourselves in glory either.

lost the title to the better team in the season overall, keep dreaming sunshine, you m ight be as good as our reserves one day.

stop it!!!!!!!!!!

Haha what a silly statement that is too make when our reserves have been at the top of the league constantly for th last 4 year. And see your doing it again you were all saying were going to wi nthe leauge now you got Torres and now your all calling us when we go for Tevez and Eto'o double standards there?? you just stick too paying 18 million for Glenn Johnson

Hang on, you said you weren't scouse.

And you have lived in United's and Arsenal's shadow for the majority of the last 17 years.

well said Enfield

its double standards for the bottlers

Why?

I'll answer that. It's because Joe Royle's career took a nosedive and he's presently back at Oldham Athletic. While David Moyes has achieved very little compared to Royle but people are still imagining him going on to higher things. There's no guarantee that Moyes would do anything good at a top side, he could crash and burn.

Joe Royle managed Everton for three years and brought them an FA Cup victory. Royle took Oldham Athletic from the second division to the Premier League. If you want to make out that Moyes is the best manager in the league because he has little cash compared to the top 4, you have to make a similar concession to the work that Royle did at Oldham Athletic and the fact he actually won something at Everton.

Hang on a sec.

You dropped your nickers the instant you thought that the yanks were going to help you compete with Chelsea and Man United.

You now want the yanks out. Who do you want in?[size=200 Dubai International Capital[/size

make you laugh doesnt it?? no club would object if a cash filled consortium wanted to take over there club

I didn't think you were talking whole careers I thought you just meant at Everton. Royle bought us the FA Cup, yes, but apart from that very poor performances, near relegation and a poor squad of players. Moyes on the same sort of money has brought us a top four finish, two top five finishes, a decent run in Europe and an FA Cup final. Yes, until he wins something people will always have reservations about him but he is producing so much more on the field that Royle ever would or could have. The squad, the quality of younger players and the players moyes can attract Royle could get nowhere near.

Moyes has taken Everton to near-relegation as well. It's just that Moyes has been given the time to ride out the bad periods, while Royle walked after his.



Moyes has had significantly more money than Royle was given. Royle walked because he wasn't backed over the signing of a couple of players on transfer deadline day. Moyes broke the club's transfer record by signing Beattie, did it again with Andrew Johnson, did it again with Yakubu and again with Fellaini. That's about 44m pounds splashed on 4 players.

Its more to do with the money bags of the 21st C that cockle than anything else.

Anyway, a Chelski fan questioning Evertons spending

What next?

Not as near relegation as Royle did. He was given the time he deserved, why do you think Moyes was given time and Royle wasn't because the board know how good a managers Moyes is and they realised Royle isn't and wasn't going to take us anywhere.

If you think Joe Royle is a better manager than David Moyes then you are completely off your rocker.




Again, Moyes has been backed with cash because the board know he is a good manager and has brought us some fantastic signings for next to nothing.

I sometimes wonder if you read what you write

I've never said that I think Royle is a better manager. Royle's management career has obviously been massively damaged by the fact the his career has nosedived spectacularly.

I'm just pointing out that getting all dizzy and saying Moyes is better than the Champions League and title winning Ferguson, Benitez and Ancelotti and title winning Wenger is stupid.

Moyes could end up with a similar career to Royle. He might not go down as far and as fast as Royle, but he hasn't achieved the highs that he did either.



Moyes has been backed by Bill Kenright. Royle wasn't backed by Peter Johnson. What is your opinion of Peter Johnson?

Totally agree. You're spot on, i don't know who said Moyes was better than Ferguson and Ancelotti but you simply can't.




Complete tw@ tbh. He was a joke of a chairman, but then again you expected me to say that