I think refs are measured in their fitness and inability to tell the time at OT.

HTH.

deffo...

5 mins - top ref
4 mins- good ref
3 mins - ref

Manu Rent Boys, Manu Rent Boys, wooaaoh, wooaoh.

Didn't the unfit one give 4?

Or does it only count as 3 because United scored and spent 60 seconds to the exact point celebrating?

I think he has been okay this season. He's quite calm.

I am disappointed with Howard Webb. Two years ago he was excellent. Last season he had some terrible games.

True. He's just not cut out for management. I expected it really. Tranmere have had a shocking start and the 5-0 thumping by Milwall was the icing on the cake.

Webb's not had a good season, but at the moment he is still our top referee and will continue to get the big games domestically, and possibly in European competition too.

That was funny though!

But, yes, you are spot on.

6 mins injury time at the end of villa vs city.

Strangely Hughes decided not to mention it?

I don't recall City being deprived of a draw at Villa Park or did I dream it?

That went so far over your head, it's got snow on it.

Don't type Geordie into that well know video site

You have been warned

So excessive injury time is acceptable as long as the opposition don't score?

Does anyone know if the owners of Dirty Leeds United are "fit and proper persons?

If the management (Master Bates) don't even know who they are, then perhaps they should be throw out of the competition before they once again renege on their debts.

Did the MVP not play tonight or something?

I know there's a few South American football watchers on here - I've just been to Flamengo v Sao Paulo and noticed that the ref had some kind of spray that he used to mark the spot a free-kick should be taken from, he then does his 10 yards and uses it to draw a line for the wall - I've never ever seen that before, is it a new thing?

61,000 in the Maracana tonight, brilliant game and atmosphere, Flamego won 2-1.

You lucky get!

Some say lucky, I prefer to see myself as the beneficiary of 18 months of hardcore saving and giving up any aspect of a social life!!

It was pretty special though, a lot of people I know who have been here have ended up watching games in a virtually empty stadium, but tonight it really was electric, best value I've had for £7 in a while that's for sure!

Fantastic stuff. You going to any other games?

Not in Rio, I might be in Sao Paulo next weekend so I'll see what is going on there.

I'm going to be in South America for the next six months so hopefully I should be able to take in plenty from around the continent.

Enjoy yourself

Haven't seen the England game but have seen the incidents with the flares. Really f*cks me off when things like this happen abroad. If that was to happen at Wembley or at a PL game you can guarantee that Blatter and Platini would be campaigning for us to be kicked out of all competitions.

Argentina against peru last night was class argies with a last min winner

Maradona enjoyed it a haha

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so true.

its right up there with complaining english premier teams have too many foreign players and spend too much money whyen Real are out there spending millions.

Plantini is a biased wipe.

First goal was easily offside and then Peru should have had a penalty.
Got to love South American football.