It's what you get when there is no team spirit because none of them like each other and are jealous at the extra fifty grand the next player might earn than them.

Superb game though. Thoroughly enjoyed it.

I think it's a crucial phase for United now. For me the likes of Vidic, Ferdinand, Giggs etc aren't up to it anymore. They looked a lot more settled in the second half today, which is strange when the changes they made were to take two experienced centre halves off for kids. I like Jones, he's already good enough for the Premier League and doesn't need to be playing off the bench or as support to Rio. He's already better than him IMO. Cleverly brought a lot of energy in midfield that they were missing in the first half. They still need a central midfielder, I can't understand why they haven't got one, they are so many quality players around in that position at the moment.

As for City, got to laugh at them. Spending £400 trillion and still losing, it's embarassing. Their best player was one of their bargains, Joleon Lescott. The likes of Silva, Milner, Balotelli etc were appalling. Balotelli is an out and out fool. Why they put up with him I'll never know. He's more poisonous than Bellamy and Barton combined.

Good to see that your daftness isn't restriced to just RL.

Vidic not upto it anymore, are you mental. In fact, don't answer that - we've been here before. Lescott bargain, he cost 20+ million. United will be fine, Vidic will be the most dominant centre half in the Premiership this season, again. City will aso be fine, will challenge for all the domestic honours and will be a threat to all concerned.

Mancini is looking for a new house in Manchester. Nothing too extravagant, just a little 2 up 3 down.

I wasn't being serious about Lescott, surely you can see that.

Vidic and Ferdinand aren't what they used to be as a partnership and neither covered themselves in glory with their performances today did they? That duo will need to be successfully broken up this season I feel, through Rio dropping out rather than Vidic who is younger and his lack of mobility can be overcome by Jones or Smalling. Look at Dzeko's goal, given sight of the entire goal with no one closing him down. De Gea was from impressed with them today.

But as you'll no doubt attack me again I'll add, "But they're United and their 'problems' are very minor compared to other clubs because their squad is so utterly superb"? They'll obviously be right in the running across the board.

It was a mistake by Kompany, but WTF was Clichy (I think) doing, he was between Nani and the ball and then he ran in the opposite direction!

Maybe they aren't happy with £200,000 a week and are indulging in a little betting as well?

very little work-rate between them, they needed tevez to carry which ever one he played with and do all the donkey work. bit like rooney did for berbatov.

You couldn't have got that more wrong, no one was booing him they were shouting 'Shoot!' There's a long running thing with Hibbert that he's never scored and is probably never likely too but it was a bit of fun.



Would you just boo players because you think they're poor? That would really help them out, I'm sure.

Manuel Neuer, oh dear.

What?

Nani's first goal was beautiful football, impressed with our play at times today.

Best I've seen United play in a while, nothing to get too giddy about though as only a friendly.

Phil Jones, Tom Cleverly and Ashley Young all proved they were world class yesterday.

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Was a decent performance especially in the 2nd half once we decided not to let their hacking get to us. Still not convinced by that midfield even though Cleverly did well when he came on, I don't think he'll be able to perform like that all season.

James McClean switches from N Ireland to Republic. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14436621.stm [iThe likes of Darron Gibson, Shane Duffy, Marc Wilson and Daniel Kearns are among those to have taken advantage of a Fifa ruling that allows players from the island of Ireland to choose which national side they represent providing they have not played for the other in a competitive senior international. Worthington hopes to add Alex Bruce - twice capped by the Republic in friendlies - to the Northern Ireland ranks.[/i Another ridiculous FIFA rule. Two different FAs, two different countries.

James McClean switches from N Ireland to Republic. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14436621.stm [iThe likes of Darron Gibson, Shane Duffy, Marc Wilson and Daniel Kearns are among those to have taken advantage of a Fifa ruling that allows players from the island of Ireland to choose which national side they represent providing they have not played for the other in a competitive senior international. Worthington hopes to add Alex Bruce - twice capped by the Republic in friendlies - to the Northern Ireland ranks.[/i Another ridiculous FIFA rule. Two different FAs, two different countries.

I thought City looked sluggish from the start, couldnt believe we were two up at ht. It was noticable that even our usually most energetic players were well off the pace. Hopefully its a sign that our pre season training has been aimed at endurance over the course of the season rather than sharpness at the start.

Thought Cleverley did well for United

I'd be astounded if any football team, especially one as well resourced as city, would do anything else.

Gary Neville didn't hold back on Ballotelli, did he?!

City looked very sharp in their other pre season games.

Definitely not. No matter how crud N'Gog or Soto are, I wouldn't boo them. A few Everton fans I know however think Hibbert is absolutely garbage. 1 other thinks he is a legend. I assumed that if there were boo's, that would be the reason why.

However, since there were no boo's, then it seems like he is still held in high regard by the Everton fans, which begs the question "why do some people think he is garbage?".

Cleverley in the England squad, aftre 45 mins



Got potential and he did well yesterday but please!

...he was on loan and impressing at Wigan all last season you know?

Yeah but never got a call up at Wigan did he! I rate the lad but think it's way too early.

But it's not just half a match he's played though is it? Is it not also counting the fact that Gerrard + Wilshere are out.

I agree btw, I don't know if he is ready yet, but it's not just going to be on the basis of 45 minutes for Utd, more likely the entire season for Wigan.

I'm just glad he's put that shambles at the U21 Championship behind him. Pearce had a very talented central midfielder and played him on the right - the idiot. That man has the tactical nouse of a cockroach.

In the middle Cleverley is a handy little player. I like the way he runs at players and is willing to get ahead of the forwards. Still not the finished article, but hopefully he'll get some chances this year.

I think there are better options for him for this friendly. If anyone thinks that a good 45 minutes wasn't the telling reason why he is included in the squad is deluded. He was nowhere near a call up last year after doing well at Wigan, and he did not play well at all after being played out of position in the summer. Capello doesn't give a sh*t anymore.

Clichy hung Kompany out to dry - his indecisiveness left Kompany in the proverbial

Arsenal paying £12M for Alex-Oxlade Chamberlain. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think this guy as ever played a game in the Championship.

Christ, we (Liverpool) would get absolutley slated for paying this amount in the media.

Fair one.