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| Quote ="carl_spackler"That's what I'm expecting too. Would be interesting to see Toseland and Spies on the same bike for a direct comparison.'"
That would be good to see.
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Toseland ? I thought Colin Edwards was up for the factory ride ?'"
Yeah, worded that wrong.
Nothing confirmed yet but the expectation is for Edwards to take Rossi's bike. As for the spare Tech 3 bike, both Toseland and Cal Crutchlow (his WSB teammate) have both been mentioned. Toseland is apparently the preferred choice because of his experience (although personally, I'd like to see Crutchlow given a go as I think he'd suit the lighter bikes more).
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"Yeah, worded that wrong.
Nothing confirmed yet but the expectation is for Edwards to take Rossi's bike. As for the spare Tech 3 bike, both Toseland and Cal Crutchlow (his WSB teammate) have both been mentioned. Toseland is apparently the preferred choice because of his experience (although personally, I'd like to see Crutchlow given a go as I think he'd suit the lighter bikes more).'"
As long as we get a British rider that will do me but I'd go for Toseland personally.
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| [url=http://www.carolenash.com/insidebikes/bike-sport/yoshikawa-named-as-rossi-replacement.htmYamaha have named test rider Wataru Yoshikawa as Valentino Rossi's replacement for the Catalan, German and US Grand Prixs.[/url
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"[url=http://www.carolenash.com/insidebikes/bike-sport/yoshikawa-named-as-rossi-replacement.htmYamaha have named test rider Wataru Yoshikawa as Valentino Rossi's replacement for the Catalan, German and US Grand Prixs.[/url'"
That will be interesting but at least they have a Japanese rider on a Japanese bike.
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"That will be interesting but at least they have a Japanese rider on a Japanese bike.'"
Alex Briggs (Rossi's crew chief) has described it as a "seat warming" exercise. Yoshikawa has tested Rossi's bike before and uses a very similar configuration, which saves Yamaha plenty of work.
Apparently Edwards ruled himself out of moving to the factory team last week. The rookies rule meant that, in theory, they couldn't promote Spies although I'm presuming that there's a loophole or "special circumstances" clause that has allowed them to bring in Yoshikawa.
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"Alex Briggs (Rossi's crew chief) has described it as a "seat warming" exercise. Yoshikawa has tested Rossi's bike before and uses a very similar configuration, which saves Yamaha plenty of work.
Apparently Edwards ruled himself out of moving to the factory team last week. The rookies rule meant that, in theory, they couldn't promote Spies although I'm presuming that there's a loophole or "special circumstances" clause that has allowed them to bring in Yoshikawa.'"
According to Wikipedia, he has made 1 MotoGP appearance back in 2002, on an M1. Wonder if that's how he's allowed?
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"According to Wikipedia, he has made 1 MotoGP appearance back in 2002, on an M1. Wonder if that's how he's allowed?'"
Would have to check the exact number but I think you're considered as a "rookie" until you've made at least eight appearances in one season. Espargaro is considered a rookie even though he made four appearances for Pramac last year. It stops factory teams giving riders wildcard rides to avoid the "no rookies" rule.
On a side note, if today's qualifying in Assen is anything to go by, this season is going to end on a whimper. Pedrosa isn't fit, Stoner can't ride his bike and Lorenzo is too damn quick.
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"Would have to check the exact number but I think you're considered as a "rookie" until you've made at least eight appearances in one season. Espargaro is considered a rookie even though he made four appearances for Pramac last year. It stops factory teams giving riders wildcard rides to avoid the "no rookies" rule.
On a side note, if today's qualifying in Assen is anything to go by, this season is going to end on a whimper. Pedrosa isn't fit, Stoner can't ride his bike and Lorenzo is too damn quick.'"
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To help clear up the situation, the Commission has given the following definitions of new ‘rookie’ rider and a ‘contracted’ rider:
“A contracted rider is a rider who has participated in nine or more events during one season.
“A “Rookie” is a rider nominated by a participating team for participation in the entire season, who has not been a contracted rider as defined above in the same class in any previous season.”
So by my reckoning, the fact that Yoshikawa will not be participating for the full season is why he's allowed. And I'm guessing that the fact Spies would have still been participating in MotoGP for the full season was what still prevented him switching.
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| MCN reports that Valentino Rossi has walked out of contract talks with Yamaha and WILL sign for Ducati.
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"MCN reports that Valentino Rossi has walked out of contract talks with Yamaha and WILL sign for Ducati.'"
No surprise there but who will Ducati let go - Hayden or Stoner ? There was not much chance of Lorenzo being told to bugger off from Yamaha was there ? I hope Hayden stays at Ducati. Send Stoner to Yamaha or Spies to the factory Yamaha.
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"No surprise there but who will Ducati let go - Hayden or Stoner ? There was not much chance of Lorenzo being told to bugger off from Yamaha was there ? I hope Hayden stays at Ducati. Send Stoner to Yamaha or Spies to the factory Yamaha.'"
I reckon Stoner will go. Ducati seem to be trying to make it more of a riders' bike judging by the gap closing between Hayden and Stoner, so I think it might not suit Stoner so much any more. I also don't think his ego could take it if Rossi started 'beating him on his own bike'.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I reckon Stoner will go. Ducati seem to be trying to make it more of a riders' bike judging by the gap closing between Hayden and Stoner, so I think it might not suit Stoner so much any more. I also don't think his ego could take it if Rossi started 'beating him on his own bike'.'"
I'd rather Hayden stay at Ducati and Stoner go elsewhere which I'd not be surprised if he did so.
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"I'd rather Hayden stay at Ducati and Stoner go elsewhere which I'd not be surprised if he did so.'"
Agree. Could also see Rossi preferring that, and wonder if it might play into negotiations with him.
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| Stoner confirmed to Honda.
Rossi has been testing a WSB bike in Brno today to prove his fitness and the word is that things have gone well. He could return to action in Germany this weekend (which would be a miraculous recovery if true). We could also have an announcement this week about Rossi's move to Ducati.
Oh, and whilst it's all speculation, it looks like [url=http://www.carolenash.com/insidebikes/bike-sport/edwards-approached-over-wsb-switch.htmwe won't be seeing that much more of Colin Edwards[/url.
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"Stoner confirmed to Honda.
Rossi has been testing a WSB bike in Brno today to prove his fitness and the word is that things have gone well. He could return to action in Germany this weekend (which would be a miraculous recovery if true). We could also have an announcement this week about Rossi's move to Ducati.
Oh, and whilst it's all speculation, it looks like [url=http://www.carolenash.com/insidebikes/bike-sport/edwards-approached-over-wsb-switch.htmwe won't be seeing that much more of Colin Edwards[/url.'"
No surprise about Stoner going to Honda. Shame about Colin Edwards though if he goes back to WSB. I take it Spies will be at Yamaha if he leaves the Tech 3 team ? That leaves Dani Pedrosa and Andrea Dovizioso at the moment still at Honda but which one will be told he's not needed for 2011 and onwards though ?
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| Probably Pedrosa. It sounds as though Honda have lost patience with him and the demands of his manager Alberto Puig.
In fairness to Honda, they have bent over backwards since he signed there ro give him the bike he wants.
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| Is Rossi really going to be riding at the next round ?
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Is Rossi really going to be riding at the next round ?
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Provided that he passes an FIM medical later today (although his / Yamaha's own doctors were happy with their X-rays)
Initially it was thought that he would only commit himself to Friday practice before deciding whether to race. The press release from Yamaha later in the day seemed to commit him to racing all weekend or not at all.
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| Medical passed - see you Sunday Mr R!
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"Medical passed - see you Sunday Mr R!'"
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| Valentino Rossi is a Ducati rider from next year for at least 2 years.
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| What a tragic day today that Shoya Tomizawa has died at the Moto 2 race today after an accident.
He was only 19 or 20 years old.
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"What a tragic day today that Shoya Tomizawa has died at the Moto 2 race today after an accident.
He was only 19 or 20 years old.'"
Nasty accident too, the press are reporting that he hit his head on the track as he came off his bike but the video shows what really happened.
Could have been a mechanical failure too ? His front wheel just skewed away (under braking ?) for no apparent reason, the riders behind had no chance.
20 years old, live fast die young, I've seen it happen to so many...
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| Tragic news from Misano today.
Looking at it, Tomizawa seems to over-run the corner hits the astro-turf at the side of the apex. If that is the case, then it wouldn't surprise me if the tyre completely lost grip. I'm not sure that there's any mechanical problem in there, these types of low-sides are common in motorcycle racing and are usually down to a combination of rider error, cold tyres (unlikely in this instance as the race was 11 laps old) or badly tuned suspension (not necessarily a fault in itself - the forks in these bikes are very highly strung for every track, tyre and temperature).
The accident itself is eerily similar to one that took the life of Craig Jones at Brands Hatch in World Supersport two years ago. Jones came off his bike in a low-side just like this and was unavoidably struck by another rider.
I imagine that questions will be asked of the track medical teams as well. They appeared to just throw Scott Redding (another rider involved) onto a stretcher and they apparently dropped the stretcher carrying Tomizawa. Given that poor first aid was a factor in the death of Darijio Kato in 2003, there could be big implications here as well.
It's also worth remembering that this is the second death at a MotoGP event in the space of two weeks. Last week at Indianapolis, 13-year-old Peter Lenzi died whilst riding in an AMA event that happened to be on the MotoGP under-card.
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