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| The sweep shot.... ARRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!
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| Quote ="John_D"The sweep shot.... ARRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!'"
if you are referring to Swann's I am not sure you even call it that, it was a slog with a passing nod to the sweep
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| Quote ="flipper"if you are referring to Swann's I am not sure you even call it that, it was a slog with a passing nod to the sweep'"
Just a general "AAARRRRGGGHHH" about the sweep rather than any one in particular. England do not play it well, do not play it to the right balls, keep getting out to it and keep persisting with it. Against spin on slow, low turners, it is a very low percentage shot. Play bloody straight. Trott did. Mahela did.
Broad a doubt for Colombo. Tim 'won all his Test matches' Bresnan must play
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| Poor fielding in both innings and a lack of application and concentration from the batsmen cost England the match. We should have won this quite easily.
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| Trott and Cook apart, the batting lineup (even as far down as Anderson) seemed to have all contracted KP's arrogance and belief that nobody is good enough to bowl at them without getting hit out of the park.
It's the same arrogance with which Viv Richards used to approach his batting, Difference was, Richards was too good for most bowlers. Strauss, KP and Bell may be a lot of things, but Viv Richards clones isn't one of them.
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| After the shambles of England there's good news for everybody as Lancashire has started the season with a win against MCC ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Trott and Cook apart, the batting lineup (even as far down as Anderson) seemed to have all contracted KP's arrogance and belief that nobody is good enough to bowl at them without getting hit out of the park.
It's the same arrogance with which Viv Richards used to approach his batting, Difference was, Richards was too good for most bowlers. Strauss, KP and Bell may be a lot of things, but Viv Richards clones isn't one of them.'"
should be a question mark against the rest of the top order except the two you mention, what was the stat in terms of how long Strauss has gone since a test ton? 50 something innings? Turning into Brearley like Vaughan did before him.
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| Is cricket the ultimate sport where home advantage truly is an advantage??
The supposed best team in the world have ventured into foreign climates and been given a hiding FOUR times....Similarly, the previous number one side in the world, brought their title over to England, only to similarly be embarrassed four times.
I'm not making excuses for these recent abysmal displays by both England and India, but I think it does show that the difference between truly great sides (of which there have been only two in my 30 odd years watching cricket) and merely good sides, is the ability to transfer your talents to any situation, in any conditions.
The West Indies sides of the 70's and 80's, along with the recent Aussie sides, both had real talent AND an inner steel which saw them through tough times in tough surroundings.....None of the sides around today have anything like it - The ranking system is no indicator of a team's true abilities.
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| I'd say the only flaw with the current England side is the ability of the top order to play anything remotely approaching decent quality spin bowling. The problem is that when you tour the sub-continent, that's what you're going to have to deal with and as flaws go, it's a potentially fatal one in that environment.
The bowling attack has proved itself capable in all conditions of dismissing sides twice for relatively low scores. They're predominantly a decent outfit in the field and in "English" conditions of decent batting wickets with a bit of pace and bounce the batting can rack up enough runs to win a game.
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| It's England v Mahela again....
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| Strauss' determination to defend when the opposition are 30/3 astounds me. For all the batting frailties, there have also been a few too many occaisions when we've let opponents off the hook when fielding.
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| Quote ="LeythIg"Strauss' determination to defend when the opposition are 30/3 astounds me. For all the batting frailties, there have also been a few too many occaisions when we've let opponents off the hook when fielding.'"
Absolutely. New batsman, spinners on.... Stick someone right under his nose, not offer an easy one to get off strike.
Ah, Bresnan. If he's available, he has to play.
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| Mahela > England. Again.
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| Very, very even. If everyone's left the sweep shot in Galle, that is...
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| If Sri Lanka kick on to post something like 300, I can't see England making enough runs to win the game even with the strengthened batting line-up.
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| England will need to score 400 to avoid a 4th innings run chase above 150. Isn't going to happen.
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| Just 2 more needed to avoid the follow-on! Happy days indeed
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| Uh-oh. They've started sweeping...
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| Both openers through to 50 ![CLAP eusa_clap.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//eusa_clap.gif)
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Quote ="DAR130"After the shambles of England there's good news for everybody as Lancashire has started the season with a win against MCC
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Innit. Good performance as well, albeit with a bit of sloppy batting first time around. The behaviour of the pink ball may have something to do with that, mind, apparently it does quite a lot early on and then dies. There was a hell of a breeze at pitch level as well - mind you there was a hell of a breeze around the ground full stop at times.
I wasn't too impressed with the visibility of the pink ball as it got older. Early on it stood out very visibly, as it got older you couldn't see it at all, neither in daylight nor under lights. Goes quite soft as well according to some of the Lancs lads. Didn't think this version of it was the huge success everyone's making it out to be...
Talking of the England shambles in the last test, the night we came away from the ground after their defeat we ended up with a Sri Lankan taxi driver. He was happy if nothing else!
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www.flickr.com/photos/8580799@N0 ... 730621713/
Now hoping Cook and Strauss can keep this current stand going.
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Quote ="DAR130"After the shambles of England there's good news for everybody as Lancashire has started the season with a win against MCC
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Innit. Good performance as well, albeit with a bit of sloppy batting first time around. The behaviour of the pink ball may have something to do with that, mind, apparently it does quite a lot early on and then dies. There was a hell of a breeze at pitch level as well - mind you there was a hell of a breeze around the ground full stop at times.
I wasn't too impressed with the visibility of the pink ball as it got older. Early on it stood out very visibly, as it got older you couldn't see it at all, neither in daylight nor under lights. Goes quite soft as well according to some of the Lancs lads. Didn't think this version of it was the huge success everyone's making it out to be...
Talking of the England shambles in the last test, the night we came away from the ground after their defeat we ended up with a Sri Lankan taxi driver. He was happy if nothing else!
Anyway, if anyone's interested, there's a few snaps from the trip here:
www.flickr.com/photos/8580799@N0 ... 730621713/
Now hoping Cook and Strauss can keep this current stand going.
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| Strauss gone (cutting not sweeping) for 60. 123/1
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| If England can get 100 lead they might be in business, this pitch is gonna deteriorate quickly.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"If England can get 100 lead they might be in business, this pitch is gonna deteriorate quickly.'"
Clearly something on Pietersen's mind. He's gone berko since Trott got out.
Happy County Championship Day to everyone as well. And a pox on anyone who says anything about "get back where we belong" in relation to Yorkshire. We've no right to be in any division other than where we are and there's only one group of people that can do anything about it.
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| Great ton from Pietersen.
Eng Lead by 77 at Tea.
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| KP sounded in awesome form as i was driving into work.
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