Sadly it's endemic Pakistani cricket, and it won't seem to go away, an uncle of mine was a cricketer in Pakistan and he's got story after story he could tell you about it.

If it's proven then something drastic has to be done to rid cricket of the problem, it may only be individual players but the authorities in Pakistan have to get a handle on it, if this means taking a long ban from international cricket then so be it.

Having said that I expect Pakistan are far from the only ones.

Will they get through to lunch?

No. This is the grimmest cricket I've sat through for a long, long time.

That final morning ruined the test series for me, which is sad.

England have played really well but now there are huge shadows over the matches, got to feel for Broad after a great knock to have all the talk being about match fixing etc.

Really enjoyed the SS chat during the day, some really strong opinions especially from Holding. If found guilty then they have to be made examples of although the ban should match the level of involvement too.

Wonder if the ODI's will go ahead now....

I can't see how any of the directly implicated players can take part if they do, the evidence is there for all to see.

I hold no hope for a proper inquiry with proper results at the end of it all though, time and time again these things have been swept under the carpet.

I've never known anything like it. On the face of it the level of fixing in this match at Lord's as presented by the News of the World sounds fairly innocuous in terms of influencing the result of the match, i.e. giving away three runs by bowling deliberate no balls, but now no one knows what else might have been fixed in the past. In fact, having read Sunday's NotW in full it seems Pakistan were trying desperately to win the Lord's Test so Salman Butt, the ringleader of the corrupt players, would be retained as captain! It is also suggested Pakistan threw their Test in Sydney earlier this year with the Aussies 40/1 with bookmakers to win it at one stage.

Pakistani cricket is so turbulent, with often bizarre selection and recall of players and captains, I don't trust anything they do now and have no interest in watching them. The forthcoming one day internationals really ought to be cancelled IMO. If I was an England player I wouldn't feel like playing against Pakistan right now, or for some time to come. The players implicated in this scandal surely cannot take part if they do go ahead.

That would be my preference, the games to go ahead with the three players suspended.

The history books will show a convincing series victory for England with no mention of match fixing

All three players caught up in the scandal will not play again in the Tour due to their "menta suffering", with Sky sources suggesting they won't play again until their innocence is proved.

The Pakistani High Commissioner has said he believes in the players' innocence.

Scotland Yard to interview the 3 players aswell.

One thing I picked up on when looking at the pictures was were Salman Butt was looking when the no balls were bowled, each time he was looking at the bowlers feet. Surely when fielding at short mid off (or somewhere in that area) your attention would be on the batsman, especially when it's a 90mph man steaming in.

Let's be honest. These guys are as guilty as sin. I find it incredible that they are even trying to fight these allegations. It was so blatant. You don't get 2nd XI village cricketers over stepping by the amounts these lads did. They should admit their guilt and hope the ICC is lenient on them.

They've been set up. Apparently. It's so f-cking blatant I too think they should just say 'We dun goof'd' and put an end to it all

Yeah that fella yesterday was very 'Comical Ali' wasn't he. SSN saying they have been found guilty. I'd of given them 5-10 year bans if they had come clean, double that for attempting to deny it.

I wouldn't be quite so quick to condemn individual players. Wasim Akram had his father kidnapped in the late nineties (and death threats to his nieces) as an incentive to comply with the bookies wishes.

The 18 yr old lad, Amir - do you think he was going to say no if his agent and captain tell him to bowl a no-ball?

Does make you wonder about the nature of some of the "shock" results Pakistan teams have been involved in, the 1999 World Cup defeat to Bangladesh for example...

If yesterday's T20 had'nt been the most unlikely game ever to be fixed, it would have had fix written all over it. Strange tactics, slow batting, a weird batting order, terrible fielding, a winning position surrendered. If they play like that when they are trying, how would anyone know if Pakistan were deliberately trying to lose?

If the match fixing, as opposed to spot fixing, allegations are true it makes you wonder how good a team they would be if they always tried.

Chasing 241.

Just started. 5/0

So much for the cracking batting track they were all bleating about on sky sports. Cracking bowling from Gul though too.

Yeah Gul bowled brilliantly. Great swing. What a swinger.

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Just get rid of them. Please.

Thats class the stupid pakistani idiot is accusing England of match fixing now

Clearly he's either not heard or not understood that the investigations don't relate to fixing the results of matches..

I don't know if anyones interested, but I've done a [url=http://aaronbower.wordpress.com/2010/09/21/pakistani-farce-should-be-ended-now/cheeky little blog post[/url detailing my thoughts on it!