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| Gildart on his way back?
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| He now looks more like a Salford singing than a Wigan one.
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| Another Kristian Woolf shaped job opportunity appears
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| Quote ="TonyM19"Another Kristian Woolf shaped job opportunity appears'"
You would have to think that he will be high on the lists on Canterbury, Wests and NZ Warriors.
Will be a potentially big year of transition for Saints next year.
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| Quote ="TonyM19"Another Kristian Woolf shaped job opportunity appears'"
Paul Green, Cameron Ciraldo, Shane Flanagan will all up them roles too.
Wouldn’t surprise me if Madge ends up at the Bulldogs or Warriors.
He’s a great coach, the tigers are basket case club.
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"He now looks more like a Salford singing than a Wigan one.'"
Yes, unless Peet & Co can work their magic.
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| Quote ="NSW"Paul Green, Cameron Ciraldo, Shane Flanagan will all up them roles too.
Wouldn’t surprise me if Madge ends up at the Bulldogs or Warriors.
He’s a great coach, the tigers are basket case club.'"
Id put my money on him going to the Warriors
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| Quote ="Zig"Yes, unless Peet & Co can work their magic.'"
I'd have him back at the right price, sadly he can't command the salary he once did. Arguably he was best British only a few years ago.
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"I'd have him back at the right price, sadly he can't command the salary he once did. Arguably he was best British Centre only a few years ago.'"
Project signing wages, certainly not international centre wages
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| I sincerely hope we don't end up losing someone like French and gaining someone like Gildart.
I know we need a centre more than a utility guy, but ever since that bunch of friends finally went somewhere else, we've been a much happier club.
On top of that, Oli's nothing like the force I thought he was going to be. There has to be someone better out there.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"There has to be someone better out there.'"
That's the thing - there isn't a non quota centre even remotely available that's better. It's why Hudds have seemingly gone in big for Bibby (I player I like), but not one with the CV Gildart has.
We'd be crazy not to go for him, especially if that allows us to keep French. The alternative is French goes and we'd have to play Miski and he's still very unknown. What's better;
NRL centre & Miski
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| Quote ="Cruncher"I sincerely hope we don't end up losing someone like French and gaining someone like Gildart.
I know we need a centre more than a utility guy, but ever since that bunch of friends finally went somewhere else, we've been a much happier club.
On top of that, Oli's nothing like the force I thought he was going to be. There has to be someone better out there.'"
The main issue for me with returning players is their mindset when they get back. Imagine we sign him and he comes back after playing a handful of games, having next to no impact and getting ripped to shreds on a regular basis. What does that do to your motivation and self-confidence - to put all that physical and emotional energy into cracking the elite competition on the other side of the world and ending up a complete failure? I hope he gets another go under a new coach - if he ends up back in SL I can't imagine him arriving with a very positive attitude.
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"That's the thing - there isn't a non quota centre even remotely available that's better. It's why Hudds have seemingly gone in big for Bibby (I player I like), but not one with the CV Gildart has.
We'd be crazy not to go for him, especially if that allows us to keep French. The alternative is French goes and we'd have to play Miski and he's still very unknown. What's better;
NRL centre & Miski
Gildart & French'"
If it means we can keep French, I'd even put up with Gildart.
But is that really the option facing us? I've heard no NRL centre mentioned.
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| Gildart can go to Wire with his mate Williams for me. No more coming home parades. You leave, you're done, move on. He wasn't remotely close to justifying his wage before he left now he isn't playing and will want more money. Absolute and emphatic NO for me.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"If it means we can keep French, I'd even put up with Gildart.
But is that really the option facing us? I've heard no NRL centre mentioned.'"
Neither have I, but I also hadn't heard about Ellis, Mago or Cust this year either.
I can't see that, if French leaves, the club would bring another winger in. If Bibby is gone, which seems certain, then there's a centre slot open + plenty of cash and a quota spot. It might not be an NRL player, it could be someone like Leutele perhaps? Again tho, is that preferable to Gildart and maybe French?
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| I wouldn't swap French for Gildart for all the tea in China. Neither would most of us, I guess, But that isn't really the question, unfortunately.
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| I have said this before but I think people forget the impact Covid had on Gildart's injury. He couldn't get the necessary rehab on his shoulder and it took him way longer than it should to get back to any sort of fitness. Before his injury he was excellent and absolutely the form British centre. Unfortunately he seems to be struggling in the NRL, as many predicted, so we won't know if he's getting back to that level at the moment.
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| Quote ="Pemps"I have said this before but I think people forget the impact Covid had on Gildart's injury. He couldn't get the necessary rehab on his shoulder and it took him way longer than it should to get back to any sort of fitness. Before his injury he was excellent and absolutely the form British centre. Unfortunately he seems to be struggling in the NRL, as many predicted, so we won't know if he's getting back to that level at the moment.'"
I didn't forget
Had a poor 2021 but from 2015/16 to 2019 before his injuries of 2020 he was IMO thr best overall British Centre.
Hes had a difficult start in the NRL and whilst not saying he's definitely up to the NRL standard, there are also a couple of other mitigating factors why they may not be seeing the best of him.
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I am 100% certain that if the injury is recovered, and he regained a bit of confidence from regular rugby, he is still a Top Notch player that would improve any club over here and be in Wanes World Cup plans/thoughts.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"I didn't forget
Had a poor 2021 but from 2015/16 to 2019 before his injuries of 2020 he was IMO thr best overall British Centre.
Hes had a difficult start in the NRL and whilst not saying he's definitely up to the NRL standard, there are also a couple of other mitigating factors why they may not be seeing the best of him.
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I am 100% certain that if the injury is recovered, and he regained a bit of confidence from regular rugby, he is still a Top Notch player that would improve any club over here and be in Wanes World Cup plans/thoughts.'"
Gildart has a great highlights reel. Sadly he suffers from the "left Wigan" tag that now means we must revise history to say he was cr@p.
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| If he were available and it was good enough for Peet, Rads, Wane etc, that would be good enough for me. The money would need to be right and you’d want a decent medical but we’re stocked heavy on overseas players and need more quality British players on board. Where do you realistically find a better English centre than Gildart? You’re not going to get Farnworth and the rest are much of a muchness.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"I didn't forget
Had a poor 2021 but from 2015/16 to 2019 before his injuries of 2020 he was IMO thr best overall British Centre.
Hes had a difficult start in the NRL and whilst not saying he's definitely up to the NRL standard, there are also a couple of other mitigating factors why they may not be seeing the best of him.
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I am 100% certain that if the injury is recovered, and he regained a bit of confidence from regular rugby, he is still a Top Notch player that would improve any club over here and be in Wanes World Cup plans/thoughts.'"
Not to mention he was excellent for England when selected.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"If he were available and it was good enough for Peet, Rads, Wane etc, that would be good enough for me. The money would need to be right and you’d want a decent medical but we’re stocked heavy on overseas players and need more quality British players on board. Where do you realistically find a better English centre than Gildart? You’re not going to get Farnworth and the rest are much of a muchness.'"
Yeah I think this is a pretty pragmatic view.
As long as he would really like to comeback and he passes a vigorous fitness check it could be the answer.
With Bibby seemingly going to Huddersfield I wonder if Wardle may be available albeit a transfer fee may have to be paid?
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"If he were available and it was good enough for Peet, Rads, Wane etc, that would be good enough for me. The money would need to be right and you’d want a decent medical but we’re stocked heavy on overseas players and need more quality British players on board. Where do you realistically find a better English centre than Gildart? You’re not going to get Farnworth and the rest are much of a muchness.'"
Post George Burgess, "decent medical" being the key.
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"Yeah I think this is a pretty pragmatic view.
As long as he would really like to comeback and he passes a vigorous fitness check it could be the answer.
With Bibby seemingly going to Huddersfield I wonder if Wardle may be available albeit a transfer fee may have to be paid?'"
Wardle is raw but has great potential. I would like to get hold of him and Connor Wrench.
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| I’d have Gildart back. Yes his last season was poor but to forget about his years of excellence is unfair. Whilst in the main I’m against re-signing players, with our centre issue we’d be daft not to consider it if it were to become realistic.
The issue is that if he were to become available there’d be no doubt Warrington would be in there offering wages we simply won’t. That’s where he will end up in all likelihood.
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