Handbags in the saints v Cats game and a yellow card for literally nothing.

I despair tbh.

Hicks on the line . He who was supposed to have retired refereeing the game already from the line . He told the ref Moore to yellow card Dudson

Yeah. He was talking to the ref when he came like he was was a little thick school boy.

Can’t stand the bloke. Chronic Attention seeking.

So, a player gets sinbinned and the other side gets the penalty.

Only SL could invent yet another way to make itself look stupid.

And, oh look ... in the first match of the season as well.

Why does Walmsley never get penalised for steeling yards at the play of the ball.

And Saints first try was 3 yards forward foot on the line Makinson lurched forward to catch the ball we're was the lines man.

Got to hand it to Saints on that half of rugby though, they’re going to be incredibly tough to beat.

To beat St Helens you have to match their line speed. They are relentless and extremely good at knowing how far offside they can be without getting penalised.

Catalan are slower off the line therefore St Helens are winning more collisions and territory.

If Dudson’s is a sin bin and the leg breaker on Napa isn’t then I have concerns for the game.

It's still called the Totally Wicked stadium. Who'd have thought legalised drug dealers could have anything to do with a professional sport side?

Not that I've got anything against the saints

Napa didnt miss did he

Catalans for all the hype have been pretty average, yep Saints played well but they've not even been tested.

This is exactly why Wane won’t be head coach of Wigan. His one and only game plan is no longer allowed by the rules

I keep saying to people that I want to see them for a couple of months before having any confidence last season wasn’t a one off. Catalans teams have flattered do deceive in the past and their big money imports don’t always mean success.

It’s flattering that Wigan is never far from your mind.

Still I’d rather have this BS to read than 626 pages about Covid conspiracies



Praise the lord the season is back.

First games of the season are never easy to draw conclusions from, but on that showing I think it's safe to say that Saints won't have as much to worry about this season from Catalan as they did last. Unimpressed so far by the Dragon's new cadre of stars (but yes, it's early days).

Not proven as consistent title challengers - they'll clearly be a threat but not the certs for the top 2 that some have made out.

Saints exceptional. They've made consistently good decisions over a long period of time getting the right people in place, outclassing the decision makers at other clubs including our own. Not just talking player and coach recruitment but the scouting of academy players and their strength and conditioning recruitment.

tackle well? Slow the play?....saints live off that now

You got home early.

First win of the season and within minutes is posting on the Wigan forum

Well he has kept a 16 page thread about Wigan going through the off season over on RedVee, got to admire his dedication

It does not matter what year it is aggresion thrives in the game

Saints are very much the litmus test in terms of who is the superior team in the competition. They are are the best all round team in terms of their starting 17 by a country mile.

Their defence and work rate is first class.

Their Achilles heel I suspect is their strength in depth. If they keep relatively injury free I can’t see anyone getting near them.

If referees start to give free kicks for moving off the mark they will also struggle. A minor snipe but at some point a referee will slate them for it.

But to be fair you’ve got to tip the hat to them after Cunningham’s disastrous couple of seasons since then they have been very impressive

They’ve set a very impressive standard hopefully we can at least give it a go this season after last season’s lamentable performances.

A backrow of Bateman, Isa and Farrell won’t cut it for us when we play them. Too small and one dimensional.

It's possible squad depth may be an issue for them if they get hit hard with injury - outside of that 17 they have Amor, Grace and Bell as experienced first teamers but not much else outside of that. I'm not convinced Welsby has the same passing game as Coote and he definitely has a mistake in him - I think Woolf with his Tonga hat on will be tempted at some point to play Hopoate at fullback with Hurrell at centre.

But clutching at straws really when looking for a weakness - the real answer (and the best one for the sport as a whole) is for other clubs to be really harsh with themselves and their decision making and demand higher standards.

I couldn’t agree more with your last paragraph. Absolutely spot on.

I don’t know what to make of Welsby. He makes some sublime movements in a game but has the “gate” of a non athlete. A bit of a freak as you say an accident waiting to happen but for me continues to make some really great moments in a game. Let’s see how he performs in the World Cup. As a Brit I hope he over performs but as a Wiganer a knock or two in the Derby would be gratefully accepted.

Saints are class, I don’t buy into there depth issues too much, like us lesser know players with squad numbers 23+ will be good talents. I’d never really heard of Dodd this time last year.

They are the standard we need to be competing with.