This player must be the craziest players Wigan have had since Mcdermott and Skerret getting yellow carded and then coming back on and nearly poking the eyes out of a saints player

Everybody says, Willie Isa is a great guy, and I'm sure he is, but he's losing it here.

His and others lack of discipline comes from one place - the Head Coach. You can see the players getting frustrated with how they’re playing. They’ve no idea what to do and it’s showing in other areas such as giving needless and reckless penalties away.

Did you have that same opinion of the Coach when Hock was playing for Wigan?

No Coach can be held responsible for the behaviour of any player unless they know the reason why they become indiscipline in any incident.

Can see the review panel looking at several incidents in this game from Isa, with several weeks sat in the stands.

He's been like this for a good 12 months, he's hit the stage nikau got to when he signed for us, couldn't keep up with the game anymore so just looked yo hurt people when he could get his hands on them

ISA did remind me of how Hock went about his intimidation, the difference though is that he applied it to all players but ISA won't do that stuff against big forwards.

Yip
Been happening for months

Ha ha

I love Isa because he loses his mind like I would having to try and play in that team. The guy can’t influence anything in terms of a forward battle playing at centre and he’s clearly getting frustrated.

I don’t blame him in the slightest.

Sorry but it’s true. Look at who he went after last night - Grace, Percival, Welsby. In the game at Saints it was Percival and Welsby.

Would he do to Knowles or Lees what he did to Welsby last night? Not a chance.

He tries too hard to be the big guy and some kind of enforcer but he’s a complete liability. An utter moron.

Are you actually joking? The coach can’t be held responsible? If course he can! It was obvious to everyone Isa was interested in one thing and one thing only - and it wasn’t playing rugby. He was a liability and should have been taken off. Instead Lam kept him on.

Hock might have been a sh*thouse occasionally but he was a far superior player to Isa in his pomp. Hock was shown the door when it became too regular and overtook his playing ability. I can guarantee Isa won’t be shown the door.

Listen, do I condone his behaviour, no

Playing in the centre those are the players hes up agai st 90% of the time

Hes spent 90% of his game time at Wigan over 6 seasons and never took a backward step against anyone.

Not took a backward step I agree. He’s aggressive most of the time against everyone. But what I’m saying is he only seems to overstep the mark against certain types of player. As I said; he wouldn’t have hit knowles on the floor like that in my opinion.

I like Isa I think he has been one of our better performers over recent months BUT not just last night but for a few weeks now he seems to have been playing on or at times well over the edge and making really bad decisions. A time out (ban) might just help him reset and get back to being a better player.

I can’t remember ever seeing Isa do anything against our forwards. Every game I’ve seen him against us he’s been utterly dominated.

I guess that’s why he has to pick on the likes of Grace and Welsby. He absolutely s*** his pants when Walmsley flew out of the line at him

Just watched the incidents back-

Grace-are we being serious? Nowt in it, move on.

Percival-are we being serious? Move on.

Welsby-Fair cop, Will get 3 or 4 games.

Few of the Saints lads could do with going playing football.

Not seen game back, that was my impression at the game, 2 games for the Welsby one for me
Will probably get 8 for reasosn ill not go into

He's stood in well at centre this year, he's had some good games, he's had some poor games. What we shouldn't have is our most experienced player on the field seemingly doing anything he could to get sin binned or sent off. It's phenomenally dumb play but it's expected. You only have to look back at our last game against Saints to see what a liability he is in games like this.

About 10 minutes before Isa got sin binned it was blatantly obvious that he was headed there. That's when Lam should have taken him off for his own good but he was content to just let it happen.

He's up there with Singleton, Hardaker and Clubb in terms of our experienced players letting the team down through utter stupidity. I could sort of expect those antics from the younger players who don't have the experience and might not have learned their lessons about losing their cool, but not a 32 year old.

For all the benefits we get from him he's still a player not good enough to start in his preferred position, prone to defensive lapses and prone to lose the plot in heated games. I don't know why the club aren't looking to move him on and invest in a specialist centre for next year as that's the only position he'd realistically be useful for.

I can also see them looking at the many incidents involving Bentley especially kicking Bateman in the head how the hell he only gives a yellow for that,he's either done it with intent so it's a red or it's accidental and therefore not a yellow

A bit like Bentley who apart from the incident with Bateman went for Marshall at least 3 times that i am aware of

Isa was an embarrassment to himself and the club last night. Resembled a child having a temper tantrum.

Halsall should be on the wing with Bibby at centre which releases ISA back into the second row where he can use his aggression to good effect however he's probably facing a 4 match ban for his various activities in last nights game

I thought a tweet by Saints today lacked a bit of class. A picture of Bentley gobbing off at Hastings with the caption ‘he just knows the right buttons to push’

I mean they’re right but it’s not something to celebrate and I’m sure the tune will change next season, in fact it started to change last week.

Fully agree

Why not trust a young winger?! especially when you’re happy to trust 5 or 6 young forwards all at once.

Isa was involved in a lot of nothing incidents last night but he’ll get a ban of around that for the Welsby incident. The rest were blown up by Saints players acting like La Liga footballers.