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| Adrian Lam names the Wigan Warriors squad to face St Helens.
Brad Singleton returns for selection.
St Helens v Wigan Warriors, Sun 4th July, Totally Wicked Stadium, 7:30pm K.O.
Adrian Lam has named the Wigan Warriors squad to face St Helens in Round 13 of the Betfred Super League this Sunday.
The two old rivals will meet for the first time in 2021 when the Warriors make the short journey to the Totally Wicked Stadium.
Team news
Prop Brad Singleton is available and returns to the squad after serving the second game of his two-match ban (Grade C) on Thursday.
Tony Clubb will serve the eighth of an eight-match ban for a Grade F charge (Unacceptable language based on national or ethnic origin).
Injury news
Forward Morgan Smithies misses out after leaving the field against Warrington in Round 12 with an ankle injury.
Second row John Bateman is an absentee this week after suffering an ankle injury last week when on international duty with England.
Zak Hardaker misses out with a neck injury which also kept him out of action on Wednesday against Warrington.
Dom Manfredi remains side-lined with a knee injury.
Jai Field continues recovery for a torn hamstring suffered in Round 1 against Leigh Centurions.
Full back Bevan French remains out of action as he recovers from a torn hamstring also.
Squad to face St Helens
4. Oliver Gildart
5. Liam Marshall
7. Tommy Leuluai
8. Brad Singleton
9. Sam Powell
10. Joe Bullock
11. Willie Isa
12. Liam Farrell
14. Oliver Partington
19. Liam Byrne
20. Harry Smith
21. Ethan Havard
22. Jake Bibby
23. Mitch Clark
25. Joe Shorrocks
27. Kai Pearce-Paul
29. James McDonnell
30. Umyla Hanley
31. Jackson Hastings
34. Brad O’Neill
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| Either we lose by 50 points or we win by 2, I can't decide.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Either we lose by 50 points or we win by 2, I can't decide.'"
Oh I can, it’ll be a huge defeat!! Not through lack of effort but lack of ability.
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| Quote ="Bigredwarrior"Oh I can, it’ll be a huge defeat!! Not through lack of effort but lack of ability.'"
Yep
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| Saints will be severely depleted as well I guess after the injured lads had to pull out from the England squad and none could turn out for the All Stars.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Saints will be severely depleted as well I guess after the injured lads had to pull out from the England squad and none could turn out for the All Stars.'"
Walmesley and Lomax both named in their squad.
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| Quote ="Bigredwarrior"Walmesley and Lomax both named in their squad.'"
Disgraceful, we lose Bateman whilst these two jokers were left out of the England team and now miraculously fit and ready to play
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| With or without Bateman we’re gonna get tonked.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"With or without Bateman we’re gonna get tonked.'"
Can;t see anything other than this, unfortunately. I know we'll give it a right go, but can't see it being anywhere near enough.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Saints will be severely depleted as well I guess after the injured lads had to pull out from the England squad and none could turn out for the All Stars.'"
Your comment is totally cynical but sadly true.
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| Hanley
Bibby
Isa
Gildart
Marshall
Hastings
Tommy
Singleton
Powell
Bullock
KPP
Farrell
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Havard
Clark
Shorrocks
Smith
Bryne looks to be playing with an injury at the minute so Clark in.
We have to get Hastings back in the halves, as much as Ive thought Hanley has struggled on the wing, would like to see him in his preferred position.
Smith looks like he needs to drop down to the bench.
Think this side could keep it relatively close.
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| Hastings needs to play in his normal position. Hanley probably needs a run at fullback. By now my expectations have been dialled back to nil so I hope that we can cut him some slack. He is going to make mistakes at this point in his development but I can guarantee that more senior players will do much worse. The issue will be his ability to compete against some big Saints players who are adept at picking the pockets of more established players. Let him get things wrong without slaughtering him for it.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Saints will be severely depleted as well I guess after the injured lads had to pull out from the England squad and none could turn out for the All Stars.'"
Hopefully when it comes to selection time for the World Cup these players wont be considered.
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| Quote ="Pie_Eyter"Hopefully when it comes to selection time for the World Cup these players wont be considered.'"
Why? Are you really saying that both pulled out because of some conspiracy from Saints to keep their players fresh?
Why would both the players go along with it? Lomax especially isn't a shoe in for the squad. Walmsley is 3rd choice and behind Thompson and Burgess. Again why would he risk it?
You do realise that it was the Wigan doctor that ruled them out too?
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"Why? Are you really saying that both pulled out because of some conspiracy from Saints to keep their players fresh?
Why would both the players go along with it? Lomax especially isn't a shoe in for the squad. Walmsley is 3rd choice and behind Thompson and Burgess. Again why would he risk it?
You do realise that it was the Wigan doctor that ruled them out too?'"
This.
Sick of the ‘conspiracy’ driven by Batty getting injured. SL didn’t care one jot for the England game so why should we? Why should people care about who did and didn’t play? Baffles me.
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| Could do with a couple of positive covid cases.
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| Quote ="muttywhitedog"Could do with a couple of positive covid cases.'"
I’d sooner have increased line speed and a quicker play the ball together with a new coach.
If we are going to get a good hiding let’s do do it with a bit grunt rather than hiding from our inadequacies. I’m critical of where are the moment but I’m hoping that all 17 give it a go and leave nothing on the pitch. I’m fully expecting a loss by over 30 points but I’d take that before forsaking a game to any side particularly Saints.
An extreme long shot but a proper drubbing may just tip IL over the edge and bullet Lam. I doubt it but I can live in hope.
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| Quote ="Pie_Eyter"Hopefully when it comes to selection time for the World Cup these players wont be considered.'"
Hahahahahahahaahahahahaha
This comment is unbelievable.
I remember a while ago when people were slagging redvee I said both sites had its share of idiots. Exhibit A
Think about what you’re saying. You’re suggesting that because a doctor working for England (and employed by Wigan) deemed Lomax and Walmsley unfit LAST FRIDAY (Lomax wanted to play) but they are now both in the squad for a game NINE DAYS LATER, they should both be disqualified from World Cup selection. Really!? Read it again. Slowly. Then slap yourself in the face.
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| I'd rather slap you in the face for calling me an idiot you little tvvat
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| Quote ="Pie_Eyter"I'd rather slap you in the face for calling me an idiot you little tvvat'"
That’s cute.
But seriously come on, you can’t genuinely be suggesting Lomax and Walmsley should be left out of the World Cup because an England and Wigan doctor declared them unfit for a game. Seriously!?
Some of the stuff on here over this issue I haven’t agreed with but it was at least reasonable debate. You sound like a petulant child having a tantrum.
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| I can’t help but agree with the long necked one about this.
We’ll never know but is suspect part of it was Wane not wanting to risk a St Helens player as if the played and aggravated something then he’d be accused of trying to help Wigan.
Either way it’s not something we can pin on St Helens (as much as I’d like to)
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| Quote ="Trainman"I can’t help but agree with the long necked one about this.
We’ll never know but is suspect part of it was Wane not wanting to risk a St Helens player as if the played and aggravated something then he’d be accused of trying to help Wigan.
Either way it’s not something we can pin on St Helens (as much as I’d like to)'"
I think it's just common sense.
I'll happily slate them for the lack of representation in the Exiles squad and truly believe that there's no smoke without fire i.e some clubs didn't want the match and didn't want to release players. It's not a long stretch to put that at the feet of saints, simply because of the amount of quality imports they have.
I'm not however buying into the England conspiracy. Wane wouldn't stand for it and would have made it known and why would Dr Brooks go along with it too? It's too tin foil hat for me.
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| Quote ="Trainman"I can’t help but agree with the long necked one about this.
We’ll never know but is suspect part of it was Wane not wanting to risk a St Helens player as if the played and aggravated something then he’d be accused of trying to help Wigan.
Either way it’s not something we can pin on St Helens (as much as I’d like to)'"
I understand (to a point) the frustration about no Saints players being in the All Stars team but this England stuff is just crazy talk it really is. Lomax and Walmsley would have both wanted to play in that game and Saints wouldn’t have stopped them had they been fit. Otherwise we’d have stopped Makinson and Knowles playing too (Welsby in squad also).
To go on and suggest there should be punishment for Lomax and Walmsley is one of the most bizarre things I’ve ever read on these forums.
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"I think it's just common sense.
I'll happily slate them for the lack of representation in the Exiles squad and truly believe that there's no smoke without fire i.e some clubs didn't want the match and didn't want to release players. It's not a long stretch to put that at the feet of saints, simply because of the amount of quality imports they have.
I'm not however buying into the England conspiracy. Wane wouldn't stand for it and would have made it known and why would Dr Brooks go along with it too? It's too tin foil hat for me.'"
I’ve posted something similar at the same time
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"I understand (to a point) the frustration about no Saints players being in the All Stars team but this England stuff is just crazy talk it really is. Lomax and Walmsley would have both wanted to play in that game and Saints wouldn’t have stopped them had they been fit. Otherwise we’d have stopped Makinson and Knowles playing too (Welsby in squad also).
To go on and suggest there should be punishment for Lomax and Walmsley is one of the most bizarre things I’ve ever read on these forums.'"
100% agree. I let off steam over it but my main gripe was always the All Stars team and the lack of Saints players. Really poor IMO but it’s been and gone.
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