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| Absolute liability.
Horrendous passing game which is unacceptable for the modern full back.
Dreadful goal kicker - not that we needed that today.
Losing his head at the end when he’s meant to be a senior player.
Not fit to lace Sam Tomkins boots. Or French for that matter.
Currently the most overrated and overhyped player in SL.
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| He had another shocker today that’s for sure
Shouldn’t have talked to the press been crap since then,but what a player Tomkins is I’d say he’s better now than a decade ago,he just oozes class any club would be daft to let him wave goodbye
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| He's been cucked by French since French came back but I thought he'd show something now he's back at FB but no.
As with the other 16 players he was garbage, but now he's also put us in an awful position with yet another outside back out. Now Bibby will have to play FB probably.
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| Quote ="NSW"Absolute liability.
Horrendous passing game which is unacceptable for the modern full back.
Dreadful goal kicker - not that we needed that today.
Losing his head at the end when he’s meant to be a senior player.
Not fit to lace Sam Tomkins boots. Or French for that matter.
Currently the most overrated and overhyped player in SL.'"
The best fullback in SuperLeague. He said so himself........
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| Been awful ever since he said he was the best fullback in the league. Shame as I thought he had turned a corner after the Leeds game.
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| Quote ="Jordan Rankin"The best fullback in SuperLeague. He said so himself........'"
1.) French
2.) STomkins
3.) Coote
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5.) Ratchford
Probably more ahead of him that’s just off the top of my head.
He’s an above average runner of the ball and a good defensive full back but that doesn’t cut it in the modern game.
You need to be an extra half back. That forward pass he throw to Manfredi at Salford in the last 5 minutes nearly cost us the game.
This isn’t knee jerk as my posts on his inability to create at fullback date back to 2019.
That act of petulance at the end just tipped me over the edge.
I know we have bigger issues than this but I find it annoying how overrated he is by Facebook fans and weirdly the media.
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| Quote ="FIOS"Been awful ever since he said he was the best fullback in the league. Shame as I thought he had turned a corner after the Leeds game.'"
That’s certainly the case. He was superb at the start of the season. He gave that interview and has been poor ever since.
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| Quote ="Trainman"That’s certainly the case. He was superb at the start of the season. He gave that interview and has been poor ever since.'"
Let’s get this straight he played well against Leigh, Wakefield and Leeds missing 10 first teamers.
3 games.
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| Hardaker when he is firing is one of the best fullbacks in the league. No doubt in my mind. The key bit there is "when firing" and currently he is way off. He has got carried away in the press and has obviously had a brain fart today.
Part of me wonders if we took the goal kicking off him would he play better?
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| The comments he made definitely seem to have affected him. Whether you thought he was the best fullback in the league or not he was certainly the form player in Super League at that time and had played some of his best rugby since we signed him.
I've got no issue with someone having confidence in their own ability, or even being arrogant if that's something that helps them. There are lots of arrogant players in sport who are outstanding but ultimately what makes them outstanding is that they back up what the say. Hardaker looks like he's got inside his own head and by making those comments has just put pressure on himself that he didn't need to.
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| Part of me wonders if we took the goal kicking off him would he play better?
I thought the team did that today?
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| Quote ="RogerMoore"Part of me wonders if we took the goal kicking off him would he play better?
I thought the team did that today?'"
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| Quote ="NSW"1.) French
2.) STomkins
3.) Coote
4.) Connor
5.) Ratchford
Probably more ahead of him that’s just off the top of my head.
He’s an above average runner of the ball and a good defensive full back but that doesn’t cut it in the modern game.
You need to be an extra half back. That forward pass he throw to Manfredi at Salford in the last 5 minutes nearly cost us the game.
This isn’t knee jerk as my posts on his inability to create at fullback date back to 2019.
=#FF0000That act of petulance at the end just tipped me over the edge.
I know we have bigger issues than this but I find it annoying how overrated he is by Facebook fans and weirdly the media.'"
Think Hardaker does a bit of a squirrel tackle first and Sam sees it and gets involved.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"Think Hardaker does a bit of a squirrel tackle first and Sam sees it and gets involved.'"
Ey up, he's here
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| Hardaker is a good FB. Was brilliant for a bit at Leeds, and sublime 2017 at Cas. Just lost that yard of pace now, and Shabby have any passing skills like Tomkins.
In fact Tomkins still the best player in SL by a country mile....!
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"Think Hardaker does a bit of a squirrel tackle first and Sam sees it and gets involved.'"
Does look like a grab takes place in that area when you watch footage back,
Why would you have your hand between someone's legs?. Flanagan got a 10 game ban for the Bulls.
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| He’s a good FB and a good centre and for me he’s been superb for us. The past few games he’s been poor - alongside 17 of his teammates. He has self confidence and that’s evident from his comments, and why shouldn’t he?
Let’s have it right there’s only one person to blame for Zak’s and the rest of the teams poor play - Adrian Lam.
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| I think he made a rod for his own back a few weeks ago with them comments bigging himself up.. just wasn't necessary.
What sort of ban will he be looking at ?
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"He’s a good FB and a good centre and for me he’s been superb for us. The past few games he’s been poor - alongside 17 of his teammates. He has self confidence and that’s evident from his comments, and why shouldn’t he?
Let’s have it right there’s only one person to blame for Zak’s and the rest of the teams poor play - Adrian Lam.'"
He’s a good player, I agree, with the odd flash of brilliance but in his head he thinks he is superb all the time. Those days are behind him, he needs to knuckle down and concentrate on being a team player instead of a “superstar” but Lam will have a few weeks without him
The quality of the league is poor this year again, and that’s the biggest worry.
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| The worst part of all this is we'll probably end up with Hanley at full back for a good few weeks.
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| Quote ="wigginswarrior"The worst part of all this is we'll probably end up with Hanley at full back for a good few weeks.'"
I wonder if it’s worth giving Smith a run at FB?
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| Quote ="wigginswarrior"The worst part of all this is we'll probably end up with Hanley at full back for a good few weeks.'"
That could be the making of him with luck .
Regards EW
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| Quote ="hengirl"He had another shocker today that’s for sure
Shouldn’t have talked to the press been crap since then,but what a player Tomkins is I’d say he’s better now than a decade ago,he just oozes class any club would be daft to let him wave goodbye'"
Sam Tomkins is a shadow of the player he was a decade ago.
The standard of SL has been tumbling off a cliff for years so it's no wonder he still looks handy.
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| Quote ="wigginswarrior"The worst part of all this is we'll probably end up with Hanley at full back for a good few weeks.'"
That's his favoured position and one he has excelled in at academy level. Give the lad a chance.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"That's his favoured position and one he has excelled in at academy level. Give the lad a chance.'"
I know thats his position, but he's not really shone at first team level. TBF you could say that about a few!
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