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| He is already better than Clubb & Flower and is one of the best front row prospects I have seen in many years, in my opinion he shouldn't be held back for too much longer especially with NRL clubs already sniffing.
Ben Kilner also looked to be coming on nicely.
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| He’s certainly one of the best forwards Wigan have produced in a few year but he’s gonna struggle for game time in the first few weeks, from what I gather Burgess Bullock Flower Clark and Clubb are the first choice 5, Flower and Clubb do need to step it up massively to keep it that way though
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| Better than Flower. Give your head a wobble
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| Quote ="The Eclipse"He is already better than Clubb & Flower and is one of the best front row prospects I have seen in many years, in my opinion he shouldn't be held back for too much longer especially with NRL clubs already sniffing.
Ben Kilner also looked to be coming on nicely.'"
He is one of the best young props I've seen coming through for many years. he has a good running and passing game, maybe a bit of work to do on his defense but he should get some game time this season.
Wigan seem to have unearthed some big athletic forwards, Havard, Macdonald, Rushton, Stone, Kilner etc in the last two or three years, let's hope we can keep them away from Aus for a while at least.
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| Both have to get past Liam Byrne yet
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| Havard reminds me of a young Morley.
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| He is a very exciting prospect and I know it’s difficult as fans to stay grounded when presented with a player with as much promise as him but I would suggest caution here. The last thing we all want to see is him built up and up into this ready made ready to go superstar and then not play at that level straight away leading to him being chopped down by the very same fans who were lauding him.
2020 should be his breakthrough year, if not 2021. He has time on his hands, as do we given how stacked we are at prop at present and we should remember both.
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| Hope we can keep him away from the NRL, looks like a beast.
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| My benchmark for success now in terms of our young players is being able to keep them in our first team for 5 years. It's sad but in the current climate I think that's a decent result. Plus it's also good for the player as going over to the NRL without a few years experience in SL first grade is asking for trouble.
You would also like to think there would be at least some level of moral obligation from the players to the club if you've come through the club's academy system for 5+ years. The Chris Ashton's of the world who turn their back on a club after less than a year of first grade don't warrant much respect for me. With the likes of George Williams, Sam Tomkins etc you have to say fair enough and good luck.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"My benchmark for success now in terms of our young players is being able to keep them in our first team for 5 years. It's sad but in the current climate I think that's a decent result. Plus it's also good for the player as going over to the NRL without a few years experience in SL first grade is asking for trouble.
You would also like to think there would be at least some level of moral obligation from the players to the club if you've come through the club's academy system for 5+ years. The Chris Ashton's of the world who turn their back on a club after less than a year of first grade don't warrant much respect for me. With the likes of George Williams, Sam Tomkins etc you have to say fair enough and good luck.'"
I do think players are also becoming increasingly aware that some NRL clubs are to be avoided, especially for young players who want to develop in a professional and supportive environment.
Lee Mossop probably one player who learned the hard way having left the professional environment of Wigan for Paramatta, I’m not convinced Sam Tomkins joined the right club either.
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| Quote ="dany1979"I do think players are also becoming increasingly aware that some NRL clubs are to be avoided, especially for young players who want to develop in a professional and supportive environment.
Lee Mossop probably one player who learned the hard way having left the professional environment of Wigan for Paramatta, I’m not convinced Sam Tomkins joined the right club either.'"
I agree. If Sam joins Sydney Roosters, St George, Melbourne or Brisbane he’s a different NRL player and a far better one too.
I never thought Mossop was good enough in the first place to warrant an NRL gig so I wasn’t surprised when he came back tail between his legs though I do acknowledge that shoulder injuries has a big part in that.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"He is one of the best young props I've seen coming through for many years. he has a good running and passing game, maybe a bit of work to do on his defense but he should get some game time this season.
Wigan seem to have unearthed some big athletic forwards, Havard, Macdonald, Rushton, Stone, Kilner etc in the last two or three years, let's hope we can keep them away from Aus for a while at least.'"
Rogues how do you do a new topic to all the clubs in super league and the championship
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| Heard Canberra have already signed two academy lads, one is just 16. Any promising kids will be targets unfortunately
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| Quote ="cherryandwhitedavid06"Heard Canberra have already signed two academy lads, one is just 16. Any promising kids will be targets unfortunately'"
Interesting, if true, given the likelihood of any sixteen year old not making the grade and given the costs involved. I would assume that under those circumstances we would not be offering a first contract.
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| Quote ="Levrier"Interesting, if true, given the likelihood of any sixteen year old not making the grade and given the costs involved. I would assume that under those circumstances we would not be offering a first contract.'"
Dunno, I'd have thought an 19 year old who had just missed out on an NRL contract would still be of interest to most SL clubs if he came back having only played reserve grade. Arguably of more/as much interest than they would have been if they had stayed. See Gelling and Hamlin for examples that worked well for us.
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| Quote ="Ashton Bears"Rogues how do you do a new topic to all the clubs in super league and the championship'"
I don't know unless you open a new topic on every forum and cut and paste from from the first one? I suppose you could post it once on the virtual terrace.
The mods/admin are the best ones to ask.
If you go to forums, Help and support and raise a ticket they may be able to do it.
Sorry I can't help any further.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I don't know unless you open a new topic on every forum and cut and paste from from the first one? I suppose you could post it once on the virtual terrace. Did that last year will do the same copy and paste thanks.
The mods/admin are the best ones to ask.
If you go to forums, Help and support and raise a ticket they may be able to do it.
Sorry I can't help any further.'"
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