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| With McDermott having left Leeds, would he be a serious contender for the WIgan job. I know Edwards might be the preferred choice of the fans, but McDermott has been successful at Leeds during his tenure.
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And is there anyone you would like to see him bring with him if he was to come across?
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| No, No & thrice NO!
Can't stand the man, just look at his response to being shown the door “I am extremely disappointed this has happened and obviously it is not a decision I agree with.” An individual completely devoid of any humility, a bully, arrogant & very much self important. You could argue all are traits of a successful manager, but his refusal to accept he's not capable of coping with problems caused by injury, an inability to adapt and the absolute lack of planning for when Peacock et al left put the lie to any attempt to lionise the man.
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| Not for Wigan thank you very much.
Haven't ever seen any endearing qualities from him and some aspects of his attitude are dreadful.
Although in his defence the failure to replace Peacock, Burrow McGuire isn't down to him but Hetherington.
GH does all the signing of players and if they are not good enough then the coach still has to play them and take the rap over the results. To me Leeds problems are more down to GH than McDermott.
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| I certainly don't want him at Wigan. He offers nothing newer than Wane and we need new ideas.
He is being linked to the job of course and in a way it wouldn't surprise me if he did end up here. There are few coaches available and it would be an easy and lazy appointment.
Now Wigan have to compete with Leeds to sign a top coach. If they end up with Furner and we end up with McDermott I think various forums and facebook groups would explode. Not because Furner is viewed as a top coach in particular but what it would say about Wigan's inability and lack of ambition to attract anyone but the unemployed!
Would be seen a seriously uninspired appointment.
Interesting comments by GH at the end of the Youtube video on Rugby AM INhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R68cc6V65ho&feature=youtu.beOUT. Despite being in the CC still and recognising the injuries have affected the teams results this year, he says the sacking is due to the trajectory the club was headed overall. So despite this and the recent GF success he decided a new coach was required. Which is exactly what many said IL should have concluded about Wane and his tenure one or two seasons ago.
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| I would say though that McDermott has been more successful than Wane, with a lower budget over the same sort of time period.
McDermott also has not been shy to dip into the Aussie market albeit with varying degrees of success.
McDermott has also played, for a majority, of his tenure at Leeds a more attacking brand of rugby compared to Wanes 1 up rugby and predictable back line phasing into the plays
McDermott has also allowed his forwards to make use of the offload and has promoted that amongst his forwards. Wane doesn't appear to be a fan and as such our second phase attack on a single play has been massively lacking.
Personal opinions about McDermott's way of handling of the media and speaking about himself coupled with his lack of endearment shouldn't be a reason for him not to be considered. The fact that he will happily speak his mind about the standard of officiating in games and everything thereafter is a breath of fresh air compared to Wanes bend over and take it style!!
The fact that McDermott has openly said he doesn't think he should be sacked is an opinion he is entitled to given how he has performed and trophies he has won.
Leeds have been battered with injuries again this season and I appreciate that Wigan performed well with a depleted squad, but that was a one off and most teams would be affected with they have had to deal with.
The team planning for the retirements of Peacock etc again comes down to Hetherington and not McDermott as he had never been given the type of power that Wane has unfortunately been given
He appears to have bought quite well over the years with a few exceptions and always appears to have a skillful dynamic team, something that Wigan have lacked for years
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| Quote ="Simmionis"I would say though that McDermott has been more successful than Wane, with a lower budget over the same sort of time period.
McDermott also has not been shy to dip into the Aussie market albeit with varying degrees of success.
McDermott has also played, for a majority, of his tenure at Leeds a more attacking brand of rugby compared to Wanes 1 up rugby and predictable back line phasing into the plays
McDermott has also allowed his forwards to make use of the offload and has promoted that amongst his forwards. Wane doesn't appear to be a fan and as such our second phase attack on a single play has been massively lacking.
Personal opinions about McDermott's way of handling of the media and speaking about himself coupled with his lack of endearment shouldn't be a reason for him not to be considered. The fact that he will happily speak his mind about the standard of officiating in games and everything thereafter is a breath of fresh air compared to Wanes bend over and take it style!!
The fact that McDermott has openly said he doesn't think he should be sacked is an opinion he is entitled to given how he has performed and trophies he has won.
Leeds have been battered with injuries again this season and I appreciate that Wigan performed well with a depleted squad, but that was a one off and most teams would be affected with they have had to deal with.
The team planning for the retirements of Peacock etc again comes down to Hetherington and not McDermott as he had never been given the type of power that Wane has unfortunately been given
He appears to have bought quite well over the years with a few exceptions and always appears to have a skillful dynamic team, something that Wigan have lacked for years'"
How can he have bought well if the recruitment is down to GH? There is a contradiction there.
What caught my ear was as I said what GH said about recognising the injuries Leeds have and the success under McDermott Leeds have enjoyed and still bing in the cup but yet he still decided it was time for change. That argument applies to Wigan IMO as well under Wane. Has had success (though less than McDermott as you say over a similar period) and for many that success made his tenure unquestionable. Looks like McDermott thinks the same over his exit as that but for others the success does not equate to unquestionable loyalty.
It may be a valid argument GH has stifled McDermott of decent players following the departure of former greats but even with injuries that Leeds side that turned up last Thursday was very poor and a fair few looked like a caricature of and old fashioned RU prop with more flab then muscle. So the point is he failed to make the best of what he has. Similar charges could be laid at Wane's door (though not fitness levels that is for sure). We spend a fortune and still have substandard play a lot of the time and have prospered because some sides are even worse (which now includes Leeds). Both coaches have on paper been successful but both have had their own fans complaining despite this for a while now. Wigan swapping Wane for McDermott won't inspire many to buy a season ticket.
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| Quote ="Simmionis"I would say though that McDermott has been more successful than Wane, with a lower budget over the same sort of time period.
McDermott also has not been shy to dip into the Aussie market albeit with varying degrees of success.
McDermott has also played, for a majority, of his tenure at Leeds a more attacking brand of rugby compared to Wanes 1 up rugby and predictable back line phasing into the plays
McDermott has also allowed his forwards to make use of the offload and has promoted that amongst his forwards. Wane doesn't appear to be a fan and as such our second phase attack on a single play has been massively lacking.
Personal opinions about McDermott's way of handling of the media and speaking about himself coupled with his lack of endearment shouldn't be a reason for him not to be considered. The fact that he will happily speak his mind about the standard of officiating in games and everything thereafter is a breath of fresh air compared to Wanes bend over and take it style!!
The fact that McDermott has openly said he doesn't think he should be sacked is an opinion he is entitled to given how he has performed and trophies he has won.
Leeds have been battered with injuries again this season and I appreciate that Wigan performed well with a depleted squad, but that was a one off and most teams would be affected with they have had to deal with.
The team planning for the retirements of Peacock etc again comes down to Hetherington and not McDermott as he had never been given the type of power that Wane has unfortunately been given
He appears to have bought quite well over the years with a few exceptions and always appears to have a skillful dynamic team, something that Wigan have lacked for years'"
Leeds have finished 4th, 5th, 5th, 3rd, 6th, 1st, 9th and 2nd under Mcdermott. He shouldnt be anywhere near Wigan if people think Wane has underachieved
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| Quote ="bazdev"Leeds have finished 4th, 5th, 5th, 3rd, 6th, 1st, 9th and 2nd under Mcdermott. He shouldnt be anywhere near Wigan if people think Wane has underachieved'"
We all know it doesn't matter where you finish as the League Leaders Shield is the RL equivalent of the League Cup in football. Nice to win but nobody really cares.
Grand final is the trophy they all want and in a similar time frame Wigan have won 2 under Wane and McDermott has 4!! I would say that was success at any level!!
Both have won't the Challenge Cup twice but Wane has one more and both have won't the League Leaders Shield once!!
I'm not suggesting I would want McDermott but I'm guessing he will be a viable candidate because of what he has achieved, which is more than Wane
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| Quote ="DaveO"I certainly don't want him at Wigan. He offers nothing newer than Wane and we need new ideas.
He is being linked to the job of course and in a way it wouldn't surprise me if he did end up here. There are few coaches available and it would be an easy and lazy appointment.
[uNow Wigan have to compete with Leeds to sign a top coach. If they end up with Furner and we end up with McDermott I think various forums and facebook groups would explode. Not because Furner is viewed as a top coach in particular but what it would say about Wigan's inability and lack of ambition to attract anyone but the unemployed! [/u
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You are aware this hasn't actually happened, aren't you?
I'd say why get so irritated over nothing, but I already know the answer.
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| Quote ="DaveO"How can he have bought well if the recruitment is down to GH? There is a contradiction there.
What caught my ear was as I said what GH said about recognising the injuries Leeds have and the success under McDermott Leeds have enjoyed and still bing in the cup but yet he still decided it was time for change. That argument applies to Wigan IMO as well under Wane. Has had success (though less than McDermott as you say over a similar period) and for many that success made his tenure unquestionable. Looks like McDermott thinks the same over his exit as that but for others the success does not equate to unquestionable loyalty.
It may be a valid argument GH has stifled McDermott of decent players following the departure of former greats but even with injuries that Leeds side that turned up last Thursday was very poor and a fair few looked like a caricature of and old fashioned RU prop with more flab then muscle. So the point is he failed to make the best of what he has. Similar charges could be laid at Wane's door (though not fitness levels that is for sure). We spend a fortune and still have substandard play a lot of the time and have prospered because some sides are even worse (which now includes Leeds). Both coaches have on paper been successful but both have had their own fans complaining despite this for a while now. Wigan swapping Wane for McDermott won't inspire many to buy a season ticket.'"
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