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| Hi does anyone know what the situation is with winners rings is for players after the Grand Final?
Ive been told that only the 17 players who play on GF day are guaranteed a ring and he club are then given 5 rings to allocate to players as they see fit.
Given we've used a big squad it seems a little unfair that several players will miss out on one if this is true.
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| The 17 who played plus S.Tomkins, Manfredi, Clubb, Shorrocks and Bretherton seems fair enough. Can't see McIlorum and J.Tomkins being too miffed when they hardly played and already have winners rings.
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| It's 25 rings handed out. Clubs can apply to SL for more in "exceptional circumstances"
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| Quote ="Grimmy"The 17 who played plus S.Tomkins, Manfredi, Clubb, Shorrocks and Bretherton seems fair enough. Can't see McIlorum and J.Tomkins being too miffed when they hardly played and already have winners rings.'"
I'd like to see Gregson with one, as he really helped standing in at 6. But I appreciate he didn't play that much.
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| I always feel that the ring is meaningless if you didn't actually play, even though it was the whole squad that got us there and all of the above mentioned deserve some recognition. In their own hearts they will know they didn't play in the GF. For the likes of Sam it would be an empty feeling IMO. It's not like winning the LLS where everyone who played (say above 5 games) would deserve a medal.
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| I think that Sam should give his to Bilko.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I think that Sam should give his to Bilko.'"
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I think that Sam should give his to Bilko.'"
Zinger!!
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| Quote ="Aboveusonlypie"I always feel that the ring is meaningless if you didn't actually play, even though it was the whole squad that got us there and all of the above mentioned deserve some recognition. In their own hearts they will know they didn't play in the GF. For the likes of Sam it would be an empty feeling IMO. It's not like winning the LLS where everyone who played (say above 5 games) would deserve a medal.'"
But that is exactly what it is supposed to signify. The idea of rings for the squad is supposed to be part of the playoff philosophy. It's supposed to show there is effort to get the final in the first place and recognise that doing so will require the efforts of more than 17 players throughout the season.
If people/players feel a ring for players who don't take part on the day is a hollow prize then it's just shows we in the UK have failed to understand the whole concept. The only game that matters is the final is certainly how many see it which just reinforces antipathy towards the rest of the regular rounds and poor performances written off. The GF is supposed to the culmination of a team effort with the league part of it.
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| Quote ="DaveO"But that is exactly what it is supposed to signify. The idea of rings for the squad is supposed to be part of the playoff philosophy. It's supposed to show there is effort to get the final in the first place and recognise that doing so will require the efforts of more than 17 players throughout the season.
If people/players feel a ring for players who don't take part on the day is a hollow prize then it's just shows we in the UK have failed to understand the whole concept. The only game that matters is the final is certainly how many see it which just reinforces antipathy towards the rest of the regular rounds and poor performances written off. The GF is supposed to the culmination of a team effort with the league part of it.'"
Fair point. Whilst it was indeed a squad effort I just think that Sam and Joel for example will feel that the ring does have a hollow feel to it (pun)
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| Why do they even have rings? Seems strange. What happened to giving out medals?
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| Quote ="wigan_rlfc"Why do they even have rings? Seems strange. What happened to giving out medals?'"
Could be wrong but I don't think it was ever medals.....?
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| Brian that would be Awful....Awful.....Awful...
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Could be wrong but I don't think it was ever medals.....?'"
I know for Grand Finals but why rings, where did that idea come from?
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| Quote ="wigan_rlfc"I know for Grand Finals but why rings, where did that idea come from?'"
I think it's come from American Football... Not certain though..
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"I think it's come from American Football... Not certain though..'"
It does. The Superbowl winners are presented with rings. Anyone remember Ace Ventura where he investigated the 1984 Miami Dolphins winners team to find the kidnapped dolphin mascot?
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| Quote ="MattyB"It does. The Superbowl winners are presented with rings. Anyone remember Ace Ventura where he investigated the 1984 Miami Dolphins winners team to find the kidnapped dolphin mascot?
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it certainly originated in the US (baseball was the first to award rings, but even NASCAR does it now as well NFL, NBA, MLB ...), but the trend is probably following the NRL who copied it off the Yanks (via Allan Zreik, a jeweller who suggested it to the ARL in 1997).
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| Quote ="ShortArse"it certainly originated in the US (baseball was the first to award rings, but even NASCAR does it now as well NFL, NBA, MLB ...), but the trend is probably following the NRL who copied it off the Yanks[u (via Allan Zreik, a jeweller who suggested it to the ARL in 1997).'" [/u
I have been informed that the Rugby Football League obtained their Winners Rings from Ratners
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| Quote ="stillinthepast"[/u
I have been informed that the Rugby Football League obtained their Winners Rings from Ratners
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And next year, Nigel is suggesting Greggs supply Doughnut Rings...
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"And next year, Nigel is suggesting Greggs supply Doughnut Rings...
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Seeing that Billy McGinty has retired I suppose a Doughnut ring would be a safe option.
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