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| Best game so far, solid under the high ball, ran hard and looked dangerous and you can tell he will play a lot better too. Definitely the not the over-the-hill has-been with dodgy knees that most on here had him down as.
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| He is getting better each game he plays. What a fantastic side step he has and when he throws the dummy the whole opposition defence goes the wrong way.
What happened to his customary last min length of the field try today though
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| We were discussing him after the game and got on to the subject of 'some' Wigan fans writing off overseas players far too early. He looks to be the latest in a long line of blokes who have been written off after only a couple of games to then go on and turn it around and become a top player for us.
I learned my lesson with Pat Richards but some fans still have not. Matty Bowen is well on his way to joining Richards, Finch and Craig Smith in the scrapheap club.
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| Quote ="ChrisA"Best game so far, solid under the high ball, ran hard and looked dangerous and you can tell he will play a lot better too. Definitely the not the over-the-hill has-been with dodgy knees that most on here had him down as.'"
A few numbskulls slagging him off after a couple of games is not "most on here".
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"A few numbskulls slagging him off after a couple of games is not "most on here".'"
I beg to differ.
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| Quote ="ChrisA"I beg to differ.'"
Differ all you want I've even put the thread up for you.
We obviously don't have many posters by your definition of "most"
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| 'They' were certainly in the minority and always are when it comes to bagging players before they've had a true chance.
95% of Wigan fans are pretty sensible.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"We were discussing him after the game and got on to the subject of 'some' Wigan fans writing off overseas players far too early. He looks to be the latest in a long line of blokes who have been written off after only a couple of games to then go on and turn it around and become a top player for us.
I learned my lesson with Pat Richards but some fans still have not. Matty Bowen is well on his way to joining Richards, Finch and Craig Smith in the scrapheap club.'"
Written off, or criticised? Bowen had some shockers when he first landed. Are we not supposed to comment when that happens?
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"Written off, or criticised? Bowen had some shockers when he first landed. Are we not supposed to comment when that happens?'"
Writen off by a few, rightfully criticised by many more (including me).
His form wasn't good enough but it now is and he'll continue to improve. There's a comment highlighted in another thread where somebody describes him as the worst Wigan fullback in 20 years after a total of two games!
Like I've pointed out the ones who wrote him off were in the minority.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Writen off by a few, rightfully criticised by many more (including me).
His form wasn't good enough but it now is and he'll continue to improve. There's a comment highlighted in another thread where somebody describes him as the worst Wigan fullback in 20 years after a total of two games!
Like I've pointed out the ones who wrote him off were in the minority.'"
Ha yeah that's fair enough. I was critical of him but not quite to that degree lol. Loving his form at the moment though. Looked cool as a cucumber this afternoon, he has definitely settled in.
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| Quality today and has even more to give.
He just looks much happier in general. He was laughing and smiling during the game compared to the first few weeks were he looked downbeat and pretty fed up.
His family being over now has made that difference IMO.
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Differ all you want I've even put the thread up for you.
We obviously don't have many posters by your definition of "most"'"
There has been far more than 1 topic. If you feel driven to prove your point though, go through all the threads since the start of the season, not just one.
I'm not that interested in point proving. To settle your nerves though, maybe" most" was an exaggeration, a" fair amount" would have been a better term.
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| As always with these things a small minority make the most noise, shutting out any voice that may offer a more reasoned assessment of a given situation.
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| Fitness is clearly improving, along with confidence. Good to see the fans really getting behind him now.
I do think he'd be a better fit though at Warrington or Leeds, he's a more off the cuff player rather than a structured third half back. He is still out of position sometimes when we are doing our shift plays.
Hopefully the more gametime he has with Smith, Green and Lockers this improves come the business time of year.
Du Du Du Du Matty Bowen!!!
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| Its unfortunate that the WCC isn't played now instead of February, we'd give the Roosters a better game now the new players have settled in.Sadly thats the only time of the year to fit it into the schedule, unless it overlaps with the origin matches.
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| Quote ="Mash Butty"Its unfortunate that the WCC isn't played now instead of February, we'd give the Roosters a better game now the new players have settled in.Sadly thats the only time of the year to fit it into the schedule, unless it overlaps with the origin matches.'"
It's a very good point. I thought before we played that half the team that played in the WCC would have played in the grand final. The roosters had the same team that won their GF.
It came too early for us to be competitive, it also disrupted the start of our season. Obviously it's a great occasion and a great experience to be involved in. With the movement though we've had in players we were always up again it with the timing of the game.
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| Bowen looked like his NRL self yesterday settled in sun on his back smile on his face. He's not a physical superman but he's the nearest player we have had to John Ferguson he can beat a player with ease and can play off the cuff which is something I like in a playmaker.
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| Quote ="ChrisA"There has been far more than 1 topic. If you feel driven to prove your point though, go through all the threads since the start of the season, not just one.
I'm not that interested in point proving. To settle your nerves though, maybe" most" was an exaggeration, a" fair amount" would have been a better term.'"
There's no need to prove a point when you come out with the ridiculous exaggeration you did, especially as it was mainly the same people on multiple threads. I'll stick with "numbskulls" rather than "most" or even a "fair amount".
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"There's no need to prove a point when you come out with the ridiculous exaggeration you did, especially as it was mainly the same people on multiple threads. I'll stick with "numbskulls" rather than "most" or even a "fair amount".'"
Good, it's all the same in the end. It's much more productive to actually discuss the rugby though rather than pick at my phrasing.
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| Quote ="ChrisA"Good, it's all the same in the end. It's much more productive to actually discuss the rugby though rather than pick at my phrasing.'"
It's possible to do both. If people make ridiculous exaggerations don't be surprised if it's pointed out.
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"It's possible to do both. If people make ridiculous exaggerations don't be surprised if it's pointed out.'"
You didn't really comment on the topic though did you, you just made a personal insult to those which have posted that Bowen is past it etc. which is worse than any exaggeration.
I've still no idea what you're beef is, you take the thread off topic and throw insults around doing so, all because you want to pick up on my phrasing. Nice moderating there.
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| Quote ="ChrisA"You didn't really comment on the topic though did you, you just made a personal insult to those which have posted that Bowen is past it etc. which is worse than any exaggeration.
I've still no idea what you're beef is, you take the thread off topic and throw insults around doing so, all because you want to pick up on my phrasing. Nice moderating there.'"
There is no need to insult the people who were critical of Bowen after hardly any game time... They made themselves look stupid enough with their comments...
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| Good god this one have gone off tangent, don't see what the beef is there. Back on topic, do people think we'll get an extra year out if Bowen? He looks far too good to retire after just one season IMO, perhaps Hampshire at SO next year then to FB with Powell to SO the year after could be the way to go
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| I suppose the destination of Green next season will be one of the deciding factors...
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