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| For me personally, this is the biggest one yet.
I've been watching Wigan for 26 years and I've seen us play in some massive games.
World club challenges, challenge cup finals, other grand finals, premierships, regals etc etc.
Wigan v Wire have been the best two teams for the 3-4 seasons and its about time we met in a final.
The rivalry between the two sides has gone up a thousand notches in recent years and every times we play them it feels huge.
The rivalry of Wigan v Saints has taken a backward step of late. The 2010 GF pales into insignificance compared to what we're about to see on Saturday in my view. I can just about handle losing to saints, I can't bare losing to these men!
Wire absolutely HATE us. Their jealousy and bitterness is clear for all to see I'd love nothing more than seeing their sulky sour faces leave Old Trafford in tears. But it could go either way, too close to call.
I feel absolutely sick to the stomach at the thought of losing this one.
Saturday will either be the best or worst day of my Wigan watching life.
I've never wanted to win a game so much
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| Your post is dripping with hypocrisy, so much so that it must be a troll. Your hate and desperation is right there. You seem to want to win this solely because you don't want us to win, whereas I couldn't give a toss about stopping you lot, obviously we will have to in order to lift the trophy, but we want to win this for ourselves, not to revel in your failure.
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"Your post is dripping with hypocrisy, so much so that it must be a troll. Your hate and desperation is right there. You seem to want to win this solely because you don't want us to win, whereas I couldn't give a toss about stopping you lot, obviously we will have to in order to lift the trophy, but we want to win this for ourselves, not to revel in your failure.'"
I'm sorry but i think your opinion will be in the minority, there will be a stack of fans either side waiting to rip the looser a new one after the grand final.
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| Quote ="dubairl"I'm sorry but i think your opinion will be in the minority, there will be a stack of fans either side waiting to rip the looser a new one after the grand final.'"
Obviously there will be jibes and use of bragging rights, but you can't think that when we win we'll spend most of our time ripping into you lot as oppose to marvelling at the things we did right?
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"Obviously there will be jibes and use of bragging rights, but you can't think that when we win we'll spend most of our time ripping into you lot as oppose to marvelling at the things we did right?'"
i dont just expect it i know it! but like i said it will happen the other way as well. If wire beat their duck and its against Wigan there wont be enough mods on this board to keep order. And you can guarantee there will be at least 2 new songs invented for next season.
personally its going to be a big embarrassment for the loser for silly reasons, if wigan win its haha and you think your the better team than us and you'll never win a grand final. for warrington its yes we are the champions probably another 2k bandwagon fans with the opinion of there never was rugby before we won the grand final.
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"Obviously there will be jibes and use of bragging rights, but you can't think that when we win we'll spend most of our time ripping into you lot as oppose to marvelling at the things we did right?'"
It's difficult to predict how wire fans will act, as nobody has ever seen them win the league
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| Same as the OP. Probably the most nervous iv ever been for a wigan game, including CC finals, WCC and grand finals. The thought of losing doesnt bare thinking about, winning would be unbelievable. The way we have been written off all year, to do the double, and do it against this lot would be the sweetest feeling ever.
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| Massive! That is all that can he said! It's Monday and I'm nervous already !
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| I don't see it as "the main one" this Saturday as the OP says. It's a big game, make no mistake about it. For me though, I don't get the same butterflies in my stomach as I do when playing Wire compared to when playing Saints, for me Saints are our ultimate enemy no matter where we or they are in the league. Ever since being little, and growing up to close to the enemy where it's half and half in Billinge, if they beat us they're waiting for you straight away but if it's the other way round you don't see them for weeks!! There's a couple Wire fans round Billinge, who we've always had good banter with, same as a couple who I've got to know over the years on the Wire board, never been nasty even when they've had their recent success it's not been over the top compared with the Saints fans. I think it probably also helps the fact that we've already had a trophy this year so even if we do lose on Saturday, we've still had a good year in my opinion although it would be a bonus to have the double.
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| Not as big as 2010 for me but still a massive game. im sure there will be the usual bell-end element on here after the game (from both sets of fans)
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| Big but not the end of the world.
I think we have done incredibly well this season - CC winners and appearing in the grand final - win or lose it will still be a great season - especially with the expectations at the start of the season.
I for one hope we win but if we lose I hope it is a great and close game so that whoever wins can say they won it fair and square - because win or lose we will still be able to celebrate a successful season.
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| Man U v Liverpool
Barcelona v Real Madrid
Cowboys v Redskins
USA v Russia
England v Germany
Ali v Forman
Queensland v NSW
WARRIORS V WOLVES
The Heavyweights finial meet in the showdown!!!!
I can't wait.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"I don't see it as "the main one" this Saturday as the OP says. It's a big game, make no mistake about it. For me though, I don't get the same butterflies in my stomach as I do when playing Wire compared to when playing Saints, for me Saints are our ultimate enemy no matter where we or they are in the league. Ever since being little, and growing up to close to the enemy where it's half and half in Billinge, if they beat us they're waiting for you straight away but if it's the other way round you don't see them for weeks!! There's a couple Wire fans round Billinge, who we've always had good banter with, same as a couple who I've got to know over the years on the Wire board, never been nasty even when they've had their recent success it's not been over the top compared with the Saints fans. I think it probably also helps the fact that we've already had a trophy this year so even if we do lose on Saturday, we've still had a good year in my opinion although it would be a bonus to have the double.'"
I agree with this - it's a massive game for Wire, to be sure, but can almost be described as "just another final" for us. Saints, despite their (probably temporary) decline, are still the Old Enemy, and as you say we've already had a great season even if we do lose.
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| Quote ="Ranger"Man U v Liverpool
Barcelona v Real Madrid
Cowboys v Redskins
USA v Russia
England v Germany
Ali v Forman
Queensland v NSW
WARRIORS V WOLVES
The Heavyweights finial meet in the showdown!!!!
I can't wait.'"
In order of importance historically.....
1) Wigan v Stains.
2) Wigan v Leigh.
3) Wigan v Leeds.
4) Wigan v Widnes.
5) Wigan v Wire.
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| Quote ="MattyB"icon_lol.gif
In order of importance historically.....
1) Wigan v Stains.
2) Wigan v Leigh.
3) Wigan v Leeds.
4) Wigan v Widnes.
5) Wigan v Wire.'"
Historically yes. This Saturday, NO.
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| Mad that in the last 4 seasons the 2 teams have won the CC 2 times each, Wigan have 2 LLS, Wire have 1 and Wigan have a GF win, with Wire having a GF appearance, yet they haven't met in a final yet.
It's the final that should have been for the last 4 years, and what a great way for players like Sam Tomkins, Pat Richards, Lee Mossop, Adrian Morley, Garreth Carvell and Brett Hodgson (if he plays) to finish their careers at their respective club.
I can't wait!
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| In my opinion, this miles bigger than wigan v saints now. There is a certain edge to wire v wigan these days.
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| Quote ="21-12"In my opinion, this miles bigger than wigan v saints now. There is a certain edge to wire v wigan these days.'"
No, no, no no and no.
Wigan v Saints is the BIG game.
This one on Saturday is a big game because it's a final, but even if we lose we'll have had a good season (Challenge Cup and U19 Champions) For Wire it's a massive game, if they lose they'll come away from the season with nothing. They will be desperate for the win.
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| Massive. As already mentioned, Wire games started getting really important ever since they knocked us out of the cup in '09. Saints games just haven't seemed quite as important, possibly because they don't really have those players you love to hate anymore like Long, Cunningham and Sculthorpe. I mean no one likes John Wilkin but he's not really a threat, he's just annoying. The wire team on the other hand is full of players who I can't stand and are a threat. Plus they've had the better of us for years now. The last season we beat them more than they beat us was 2004, and even then they did beat us once! I'd just love to see Briers' face if we beat them.
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| It doesn't have to be either or. However you cut it, Saturday is huge and the final that the broadcasters have been praying for over the past two years.
Games that are bigged up rarely live up to expectations, but there have been some mammoth clashes between the two sides over the past few years and Saturday will be no different.
It's only Monday and I am already giddy, it is going to be a long week. Lets both sides pack the stadium out and enjoy 80 minutes of the greatest game of all.
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| Quote ="Geoff"I agree with this - it's a massive game for Wire, to be sure, but can almost be described as "just another final" for us. Saints, despite their (probably temporary) decline, are still the Old Enemy, and as you say we've already had a great season even if we do lose.'" With all due respect that post smacks of arrogance + it certainly doesn't seem like 'just' another final going by the vast majority of threads on your board.Eitherway may the best team win.
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| I'd care about this just as much if Hull KR has somehow sneaked through to the final from eighth, but had seen their entire squad banned for a mass brawl in the 79th minute of their semi (after they had secured the win) and we were now playing their U19 team in the final instead of Wigan's first team.
Yes having a big local opponent does give it some extra spice, but I'm just desperate to see Warrington win the Grand Final no matter who the opposition and what the circumstances are.
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| Firstly, I am thrilled that we dismissed the Whino's on Friday. I took great pleasure in watching certain ( not all ) players with bitter disappointment as they crept off the field.
But Saturday is The Grand Final.
This is the trophy that EVERYONE wants and we are now one of only two teams left, it does not get bigger than that and although I would dearly like to silence the Wolves taunting, my biggest hope is that we just lift the trophy.
I still think Saints is my biggest rivalry and will always remain so, but it is good to have so many good quality teams here in the north west and it certainly adds spice in games like these.
May the best team win, and that be us !
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| This is the best final based on recent seasons. Unfortunately, whether in the CC or the SL, one of our teams have cocked up the opportunity for us to collide at this stage. But no more.
I look forward to Wigan matches more than any other, and can not see that changing for the foreseeable. There is no bitterness whatsoever either, even though I can unfortunately remember times when our players got steam rolled by what appeared to be boulders carrying the Norweb logo.
Should be a cracking final either way. Players leaving from both clubs after this and they deserve to be involved in a brilliant final.
Of course I am all out for a Wire win however.
See you Saturday.
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