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| As this board is liable to go into meltdown at 3pm it's probably useful to have one thread discussing any departures mentioned at the 3pm press conference in this thread only please so we don't have multiple ones discussing the same thing, ta.
Will set up a similar one for any incoming players.
UPDATE:
Three year deal with "return ticket" arrangement.
Unspecified world record transfer fee.
(courtesy of @PWilkinsonWIG)
Official now - [urlhttp://www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.aspx?id=8674&type=1[/url
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| Tomkins officially gone to NZ, 3 year deal
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| Quote ="bazdev"Tomkins officially gone to NZ, 3 year deal'"
He will only stay for two....
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| Even as a Wire fan I'll be sad to see him go, players of his talent don't come along very often and our league will be poorer without him. Good luck to him over there and hopefully he'll be a massive success and Eng/GB will reap the benefits
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| "Return ticket"
Please tell me Wigan fans are not completely deluded.
He's gone. Whether or not he will come back to Wigan remains to be seen but the "return ticket" will have bugger all to do with it.
Probably the best option for him atm. 2 or 3 years in the NRL, test himself out there, then a lucrative RU contract (maybe).
Sticking to the facts, what IL has gone out of his way to say is that it was Sam's decision to leave, not his to sell.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX""Return ticket"
Please tell me Wigan fans are not completely deluded.
He's gone. Whether or not he will come back to Wigan remains to be seen but the "return ticket" will have bugger all to do with it.
Probably the best option for him atm. 2 or 3 years in the NRL, test himself out there, then a lucrative RU contract (maybe).
Sticking to the facts, what IL has gone out of his way to say is that it was Sam's decision to leave, not his to sell.'"
IL comments make a mockery of what he trumpeted when he signed the new deal
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX""Return ticket"
Please tell me Wigan fans are not completely deluded.
He's gone. Whether or not he will come back to Wigan remains to be seen but the "return ticket" will have bugger all to do with it.'"
Exactly. if he comes back it will be because it suits not because he has a return ticket.
Quote Probably the best option for him atm. 2 or 3 years in the NRL, test himself out there, then a lucrative RU contract (maybe).'"
Misses the RU world cup in that time. Still probably young enough to figure next time but hard to say. He'll be 27 by the time the next RU WC occurs so that may kill any interest.
Quote Sticking to the facts, what IL has gone out of his way to say is that it was Sam's decision to leave, not his to sell.'"
So Sam broke his contract and IL was too weak to enforce the no talking to other clubs clause after he made such great play about it.
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| Quote ="DaveO"Misses the RU world cup in that time. Still probably young enough to figure next time but hard to say. He'll be 27 by the time the next RU WC occurs so that may kill any interest.'"
He could sign in time for the Lions tour of NZ though which is arguably a bigger event for British and Irish RU players than the world cup
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| Quote ="DaveO"Exactly. if he comes back it will be because it suits not because he has a return ticket.
Misses the RU world cup in that time. Still probably young enough to figure next time but hard to say. He'll be 27 by the time the next RU WC occurs so that may kill any interest.
So Sam broke his contract and IL was too weak to enforce the no talking to other clubs clause after he made such great play about it.'"
It was a stupid thing for IL to say at the time (and complete nonsense as I posted), but he did, and lapped up the credit for it.
Now he must take the flak for that misplaced acclaim.
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| Why bother having players on contracts longer than a year Lenegan?
Sam here for at least 3 years - Complete lies!
3 years before he can speak to a Rugby Union club but hes on a 5 year contract?? WTF was all that about? Hes either on a 3 year contract or a 5 year contract!! which one is it? Answer is 2 years WTF?!?
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| Quote ="DaveO"So Sam broke his contract and IL was too weak to enforce the no talking to other clubs clause after he made such great play about it.'"
Quote ="XBrettKennyX"It was a stupid thing for IL to say at the time (and complete nonsense as I posted), but he did, and lapped up the credit for it. Now he must take the flak for that misplaced acclaim.'"
Wasn't the whole point of the 5 year contract to maximise the selling price of Sam, who would have discussed his depature plans with his agent and the club 2 years ago?
Perhaps not, maybe Sam just decided to leave in April this year and that puny chairman with the moustache never thought that Sam would ever leave and didnt feel the need to enforce his contract.
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| Quote ="DaveO"He will only stay for two....'"
Brilliant!
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| Glad we won't be coming up against him again but such a shame for our game that yet again we are losing one of our best players from the league .
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| We are done
Will we have anyone left in a few years?
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| the last line from the NZ Warriors release:
"Scurrah said both clubs plan to combine on a number of initiatives in the future."
Interesting & mildly concerning at the same time.
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| You have to do what's best by the players sadly, they make the game afterall. Shame for the club but he's going on to bigger things and I think it'd just be unfair to deny him that opportunity. Prescott's retirement this season should serve as an eye opener, these guys play short careers, we need to let tem make as much as possible from them.
I hope he cements his spot as one of the true stars of the game down under.
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| Quote ="TaxingChimp"You have to do what's best by the players sadly, they make the game afterall. Shame for the club but he's going on to bigger things and I think it'd just be unfair to deny him that opportunity. Prescott's retirement this season should serve as an eye opener, these guys play short careers, we need to let tem make as much as possible from them.
I hope he cements his spot as one of the true stars of the game down under.'"
If he'd had a career ending injury 2 weeks ago, he'd be wanting to be paid up the full 5 years of his contract. That's what's annoying.
If he'd have stayed to the end of next season I'd have been happy, the fact that he hasn't makes me slightly not.
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| I Knew we should only have signed him on a ONE year contract, dam we missed an opportunity in 2010.....
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| Fantastic deal for Wigan, 750,000 reasons why you sold him, in Ryan Hampshire you have the next superstar. Ryan will take the game by storm
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| Quote ="CyberPieMan"the last line from the NZ Warriors release:
"Scurrah said both clubs plan to combine on a number of initiatives in the future."
Interesting & mildly concerning at the same time.'"
Same was said when sams brother left for rugby union, its all a wash to try to appease people
Where is all this money going for these transfer fees (im guessing over a million for sam/mossop/hock?
Who is next im guessing charnley next year
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| We all knew he was going to leave, it's better that he goes now when we can command a fee rather than next year for nothing.
Any idea what he cost?
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| World record fee, oh goody. Cheap season tickets for all next year then
Why the feck has this been announced 4 days before the biggest game of the season?? Surely another couple of week wouldn't have mattered. Now we have the circus of SAMs leaving party to contend with. Utter
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| Quote ="Owdpopularsider"World record fee, oh goody. Cheap season tickets for all next year then
Why the feck has this been announced 4 days before the biggest game of the season?? Surely another couple of week wouldn't have mattered. Nod we have the circus of SAMs leaving party to contend with. Utter'"
Exactly. We have bucket loads of cash. So what are we going to do with it since the salary cap stops us using it for players wages? We are going to make Mr Lenegan richer than he already is!
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| pfft i like brettkenney/bilko idea we should have kept him against he's will and play with a team full of alienated players who would more than likely never be willing to sign a contract with wigan again.
scratch your head a realize players can earn in 1 season that they would earn in 3 years in super league. forget all that i want to go and play in the toughest league nonsense that the aussie media will be spouting its all about money and thats why a lot of players are moving there now.
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| Quote ="JackH"We all knew he was going to leave, it's better that he goes now when we can command a fee rather than next year for nothing.
Any idea what he cost?'"
Let's not go down the route of football fans by bigging up how much we got for a player. Truth is we as fans won't see a penny of it so I don't give a big steaming turd how much they paid for him.
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