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| Won 40-16. A very convincing victory. Wigan were in control the entire game, and had it not been for some slack passes and poor discipline, the scoreline could have been much more favourable to Wigan. As far as I know it means we get a week off, with the Final being 2 weeks today.
Hampshire ran the show again, he really is turning into a very very good player. Forwards were very good as well. The game was marred a bit by a big brawl early in the second half that saw 2 Wigan players and 1 Leeds player sin binned. We may have some suspensions for the final.
With Latics being away to Watford that weekend it means the Stadium is free [We'll be playing Thurs or Fri hopefully we can host the final there. Otherwise I think it would be @ LSV.
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| Hampshire was outstanding. Looks far too good for that level and a massive bonus is he goal kicking ability. Kicked several from the touchline today. This guy needs to be in the first team next season!
Other strong performances from Gildart and Manfredi
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| With a full team now back on board they should win the competition. Some of the lads at that level are superb. On a poor note I read somewhere we may have a couple banned for the final after a massive brawl (again). That needs sorting.
Where is the final?
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| Went over to watch today,Wigan were very very good,The stand off Hampshire is a very classy player,also Manfredi on the wing was pretty good
Best team definately won
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| The big difference for me was the half backs, Hampshire and Williams were very good for Wigan but the Leeds pair created absolutely nothing.
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| Quote ="The Eclipse"The big difference for me was the half backs, Hampshire and Williams were very good for Wigan but the Leeds pair created absolutely nothing.'"
It would be interesting to know what regulars to the u19s think Williams best position will be when he matures, when you look at him now he seems to be a very big lad who seems to be clever and strong and not lacking in confidence.
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| Seems the final will have to be played away at the winner of Leeds v St Helens next week.
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| Quote ="stillinthepast"Quote ="The Eclipse"The big difference for me was the half backs, Hampshire and Williams were very good for Wigan but the Leeds pair created absolutely nothing.'"
It would be interesting to know what regulars to the u19s think Williams best position will be when he matures, when you look at him now he seems to be a very big lad who seems to be clever and strong and not lacking in confidence.'"
Having been to most 19's games this season and before I've always favoured Williams over Hampshire even though I believe Hampshire has more to his game than Williams in terms of his goal kicking and ability to play in more than his natural position of stand off but that's been one attribute that a lot of Stand Offs have the ability to fill in at Full Back with little problem, I just enjoy watching Williams more and it slightly irritates me when people report on the 19's games as all they talk about is Hampshire whereas as if not for Williams then Hampshire wouldn't stand out as much for example the Leeds game at the weekend Willliams created several tries one of which was for Hampshire I just struggle to understand why Williams rarely gets mentioned for his major contribution to the side, but that aside both are very exciting prospects and I'm just glad they are in reserve for Wigan and not Saints, Leeds or Wire as both have massive potential both players remind me of younger versions of Sam in as much as you can only see greats things in the future for both players and in my honest opinion Williams will remain at Scrum Half but despite Tierney being around I see Hampshire as the long term Sam replacement and can see Tierney switch to either Wing or Centre.
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| Why's that Bilko?
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| Quote ="wiganrl"Having been to most 19's games this season and before I've always favoured Williams over Hampshire even though I believe Hampshire has more to his game than Williams in terms of his goal kicking and ability to play in more than his natural position of stand off but that's been one attribute that a lot of Stand Offs have the ability to fill in at Full Back with little problem, I just enjoy watching Williams more and it slightly irritates me when people report on the 19's games as all they talk about is Hampshire whereas as if not for Williams then Hampshire wouldn't stand out as much for example the Leeds game at the weekend Willliams created several tries one of which was for Hampshire I just struggle to understand why Williams rarely gets mentioned for his major contribution to the side, but that aside both are very exciting prospects and I'm just glad they are in reserve for Wigan and not Saints, Leeds or Wire as both have massive potential both players remind me of younger versions of Sam in as much as you can only see greats things in the future for both players and in my honest opinion Williams will remain at Scrum Half but despite Tierney being around I see Hampshire as the long term Sam replacement and can see Tierney switch to either Wing or Centre.'"
I flicked through the game on Wigan TV and I must say from a highlights point of view Williams looked like he had a blinder. It was taking numerous defenders to drag him down every time he ran the ball and he put some cracking passes out. I did read somewhere he'd made a few errors with his distribution but if anything I'd say that may have come from an over confidence.
He looks a real talent and I'd be happy to see him getting more games in the first team next year. He looks to have the type of running game that would cause defenders far more problems then Logan Tomkins if we were to throw him in at 9.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I flicked through the game on Wigan TV and I must say from a highlights point of view Williams looked like he had a blinder. It was taking numerous defenders to drag him down every time he ran the ball and he put some cracking passes out. I did read somewhere he'd made a few errors with his distribution but if anything I'd say that may have come from an over confidence.
He looks a real talent and I'd be happy to see him getting more games in the first team next year. He looks to have the type of running game that would cause defenders far more problems then Logan Tomkins if we were to throw him in at 9.'"
Your comment about Williams filling in at No 9 was what I was referring to when I made the comment about him being a very big lad.
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| It'll only help his first team chances if he's able to play in a few positions. The 7 spot in the side looks sewed up for a few years with Matty Smith's form and Hampshire is a natural 6 so if Williams can make an impact from 9 that could be a spot he can squeeze in to.
Another player who looked an absolute handful in the game was Dom Manfredi. He doesn't do things at half pace does he!
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| Is the GF going to be at the DW??
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| I heard it's at Leigh
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| Suggestions are the grand final will be away at next weeks winner.
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| Quote ="Bilko"Suggestions are the grand final will be away at next weeks winner.'"
What's the reasons behind that? I presume Orrell isn't up to scratch and the DW isn't available?
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"It'll only help his first team chances if he's able to play in a few positions. The 7 spot in the side looks sewed up for a few years with Matty Smith's form and Hampshire is a natural 6 so if Williams can make an impact from 9 that could be a spot he can squeeze in to.
Another player who looked an absolute handful in the game was Dom Manfredi. He doesn't do things at half pace does he!'"
It's not as simply as Hampshire is a 6 and Williams is a 7 so that's where they will play. Hampshire is more like Smith in that he's better at first receiver and on the right hand side. Williams seems better as a second receiver because of his strength, footwork and offloading ability, similar to Blake Green and just like Green he favours the left.
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| Quote ="Cherry.Pie"It's not as simply as Hampshire is a 6 and Williams is a 7 so that's where they will play. Hampshire is more like Smith in that he's better at first receiver and on the right hand side. Williams seems better as a second receiver because of his strength, footwork and offloading ability, similar to Blake Green and just like Green he favours the left.'"
It used to be simple, halfbacks used to play as a unit all over the field, If what you say is correct, it confirms that all the creativity in young players (especially halfbacks) is being coached out of young players at an early age.
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| Quote ="stillinthepast"It used to be simple, halfbacks used to play as a unit all over the field, If what you say is correct, it confirms that all the creativity in young players (especially halfbacks) is being coached out of young players at an early age.'"
I don't think that's the case. Halves just tend to be played down one side of the field these days and most players are better on one side compared to the other - in the same way that they would be left or right handed.
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| Quote ="Cherry.Pie"I don't think that's the case. Halves just tend to be played down one side of the field these days and most players are better on one side compared to the other - in the same way that they would be left or right handed.'"
Sorry to differ with what you are saying Cherry, but I can imagine the reaction of the Murphy's, Gregs and Edwards of this world when asked if they are right or left handed before being told what side of the field they should line up on. Cheers.
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| Quote ="stillinthepast"Sorry to differ with what you are saying Cherry, but I can imagine the reaction of the Murphy's, Gregs and Edwards of this world when asked if they are right or left handed before being told what side of the field they should line up on. Cheers.'"
You don't think players are likely to have a preferred side of the field? It's no different to Man United playing Ryan Giggs on the right - brilliant player but only ever capable of playing his best on one side of the field.
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| Quote ="stillinthepast"Sorry to differ with what you are saying Cherry, but I can imagine the reaction of the Murphy's, Gregs and Edwards of this world when asked if they are right or left handed before being told what side of the field they should line up on. Cheers.'"
Was it to the right that Gregory was so bad at passing to he used to turn his back to the opposition?
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"What's the reasons behind that? I presume Orrell isn't up to scratch and the DW isn't available?'"
Not sure. The RFL insist it has to be played at a first team venue. Clearly they aren't allowed at the DW so are left with little choice. Its been suggested the 2011 of Leigh isn't on because they are hosting Championship Finals day the same weekend.
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| Quote ="wiganrl"Having been to most 19's games this season and before I've always favoured Williams over Hampshire even though I believe Hampshire has more to his game than Williams in terms of his goal kicking and ability to play in more than his natural position of stand off but that's been one attribute that a lot of Stand Offs have the ability to fill in at Full Back with little problem, I just enjoy watching Williams more and it slightly irritates me when people report on the 19's games as all they talk about is Hampshire whereas as if not for Williams then Hampshire wouldn't stand out as much for example the Leeds game at the weekend Willliams created several tries one of which was for Hampshire I just struggle to understand why Williams rarely gets mentioned for his major contribution to the side, but that aside both are very exciting prospects and I'm just glad they are in reserve for Wigan and not Saints, Leeds or Wire as both have massive potential both players remind me of younger versions of Sam in as much as you can only see greats things in the future for both players and in my honest opinion Williams will remain at Scrum Half but despite Tierney being around I see Hampshire as the long term Sam replacement and can see Tierney switch to either Wing or Centre.'"
Must agree with this - Williams seems a solid and an all round player - several times he stopped Leeds forwards head on and pushed them back. Also a very clever and natural rugby player. Doesn't have the speed and evasion of Hampshire but boy what a combination they might be
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| Quote ="Bilko"Not sure. The RFL insist it has to be played at a first team venue. Clearly they aren't allowed at the DW so are left with little choice. Its been suggested the 2011 of Leigh isn't on because they are hosting Championship Finals day the same weekend.'"
I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to make the young lads play away instead of at home as it will help build there character of majority of crowd is against them.
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