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| Did anyone notice the clock stop with 5:03 left for about a minute? Who knows what impact it would have had but bit of a cock up. Wigan physio pointed it out to the ref so they obviously noticed it too. Perhaps that's why we went for DG early in the set because they thought hooter might go any time. Anyway, a very entertaining game! Well done to the lads... and the crowd.
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| Yeah I thought they would have sorted it out once noticed but it just carried on counting down normally, hull wouldn't have got that last drop goal if it hadn't stopped. Oh well the young lads get some SL experience and learn how crap the standard of super league refereeing is all in one night.
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| Yes. A right royal f**k up by the officials. It was at least 60 seconds whilst the ball was in play. Very proud night however and it was slightly amusing to see the Hull fans dance shirtless after the hooter.
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| Stopped on 5:03 for about 60 seconds, young guys robbed of a great win by a crap ref and dodgy timekeeping
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| We had a chance to win it at the end, stopped clock or not, we had chances to win the game.
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| Quote ="Jeff the God of Biscuits"We had a chance to win it at the end, stopped clock or not, we had chances to win the game.'"
Agreed. Inexperience leading to the DG attempt being taken straight from the late scrum ultimately cost us at least a point. An older wiser team would have taken a couple of tackles to eat up the clock before going for it. That way whether it goes over or not there would have been no time for a response. Still a great performance though from the team and they will learn from what happened late on.
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| Quote ="Jeff the God of Biscuits"We had a chance to win it at the end, stopped clock or not, we had chances to win the game.'"
This. Naive from Powell to go for the drop goal so early in the set but that shouldn't take anything away from what was an excellent performance from a very young team.
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| Quote ="Pemps"This. Naive from Powell to go for the drop goal so early in the set but that shouldn't take anything away from what was an excellent performance from a very young team.'"
I said leaving the ground, that I am as proud tonight as I was last Saturday, immense from our kids. But lets not start blaming the ref or the clock, we had opportunities and didn't take them. These lads have a bright future at the club, and will take a lot from that defeat.
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| Wane is claiming in post match conference (source: Observer phil wikinson twitter) the clubs timing was two minutes ahead. That may, or may not, explain the rushed drop goal attempt madness.
What isn't in doubt is that the clock displayed in the west stand (which is an official clock) was halted when Hull formed a rush scrum 50-60 out and remained on 5.03 for the full set in which Hull scored for 33-32. It only restarted when the try had been awarded and it started counting down again from 5.03.
Let's make it clear, that issue isn't Hull's fault and they played to the clock perfectly BUT its a shame if a cock up decided that result!
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| as a hull fan i actually thought a draw would have been a fair result, but hey you take what you are given in this game. your younger players seem the part, wonder if there will be a few playing more regularly next season?
andy powell also made a bit of a name for himself
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| Quote ="Bilko"Wane is claiming in post match conference (source: Observer phil wikinson twitter) the clubs timing was two minutes ahead. That may, or may not, explain the rushed drop goal attempt madness.
What isn't in doubt is that the clock displayed in the west stand (which is an official clock) was halted when Hull formed a rush scrum 50-60 out and remained on 5.03 for the full set in which Hull scored for 33-32. It only restarted when the try had been awarded and it started counting down again from 5.03.
Let's make it clear, that issue isn't Hull's fault and they played to the clock perfectly BUT its a shame if a cock up decided that result!'"
Is it the timekeepers fault? Did Childs signal time back on?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Is it the timekeepers fault? Did Childs signal time back on?'"
Dunno but even if Child didn't its common sense to put it back on themselves surely.
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| Quote ="Loyal o'riley"Did anyone notice the clock stop with 5:03 left for about a minute? Who knows what impact it would have had but bit of a cock up. Wigan physio pointed it out to the ref so they obviously noticed it too. Perhaps that's why we went for DG early in the set because they thought hooter might go any time. Anyway, a very entertaining game! Well done to the lads... and the crowd.'"
My thoughts exactly. The clock was showing 1:22 when we went for the drop ( I checked) after packing down quickly. There was no rush with 1:22 remaining so I didn't understand why he went for it on the 1st.
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| Quote ="Pemps"This. Naive from Powell to go for the drop goal so early in the set but that shouldn't take anything away from what was an excellent performance from a very young team.'"
Why is it naive if he thinks there is no time left? I was furious with him at the time but then I remembered the clock stopping. I noted the clock was on 1:22 when he kicked it so that would have been 22 secs left.
Why they wouldn't know the difference in time I don't know but there was certainly a time keeping screw up.
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| But if the "official" clock is showing 1:22 why rush the drop goal ?
Surely the captain can / could ask the ref at the scrum to confirm the time left?
inexperiance maybe?
Just be proud you have such great strength in depth...
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| Quote ="slimez"But if the "official" clock is showing 1:22 why rush the drop goal ?
Surely the captain can / could ask the ref at the scrum to confirm the time left?
inexperiance maybe?'"
No idea but I don't expect the players to be looking up at the corner of the west stand. Never mind that though things like this should not happen.
Quote Just be proud you have such great strength in depth...'"
I am very pleased with the way it went. For 10 mins I thought we were on for a drubbing but they showed more variation on attack than the 1st team has done for most of the season!
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| Quote ="Pemps"This. Naive from Powell to go for the drop goal so early in the set but that shouldn't take anything away from what was an excellent performance from a very young team.'"
He got the instruction from the sideline to drop the goal early and so don't be harsh on Powell.
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| Quote ="DaveO"No idea but I don't expect the players to be looking up at the corner of the west stand. Never mind that though things like this should not happen.
I am very pleased with the way it went. For 10 mins I thought we were on for a drubbing but they showed more variation on attack than the 1st team has done for most of the season!'"
Exactly my thoughts. Started off the night not expecting much & ended up being one of the better games of the season in entertainment terms, and definitely more variety in attack than the usual cross field kick every 6th tackle at their end. Just a shame at the end as they deserved a point.
To be fair to Hull though, despite the momentum being hugely in our favour mid second half, and them having a short period where they started knocking on like Saturday, they pulled it back well. Largely through spotting that Burgess kept getting isolated on his wing. 3 of their tries were almost identical.
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| Quote ="Jeff the God of Biscuits"We had a chance to win it at the end, stopped clock or not, we had chances to win the game.'"
Heard several mentions of the clock but I agree
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| Actually, just remembered that one was on Manfredi's side in the first half....
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| Quote ="Conroy"Heard several mentions of the clock but I agree'"
Bearing in mind it's the match clock, and the coaching staff can see it, why would they be using a different timing anyway?
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| Quote ="JohnP"Exactly my thoughts. Started off the night not expecting much & ended up being one of the better games of the season in entertainment terms, and definitely more variety in attack than the usual cross field kick every 6th tackle at their end. Just a shame at the end as they deserved a point.'"
Hampshire kicking through towards the right wing was a joy to watch. Very unlucky with the bounce.
Quote To be fair to Hull though, despite the momentum being hugely in our favour mid second half, and them having a short period where they started knocking on like Saturday, they pulled it back well. Largely through spotting that Burgess kept getting isolated on his wing. 3 of their tries were almost identical.'"
The momentum changed when Child's awarded Hull a penalty for not square when the Hull player played the ball to no one.
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| Quote ="DaveO"Hampshire kicking through towards the right wing was a joy to watch. Very unlucky with the bounce.
The momentum changed when Child's awarded Hull a penalty for not square when the Hull player played the ball to no one.'"
Don't get me started on that one, I was trying to be gracious in defeat...
I also didn't understand the disallowed try where we ended up with the scrum. Assume it was disallowed for a knock on, but he gave a prior infringement against Hull? Either way, they came in quick succession of each other, and I wasn't a happy man.
However, I thought the game was generally played in the right spirit by both teams - very little messing around at the play the ball, or niggly shots, and far more positives than negatives for us. So overall, an unexpectedly enjoyable evening for about 79 mins 50 seconds.
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| Quote ="JohnP"Don't get me started on that one, I was trying to be gracious in defeat...
I also didn't understand the disallowed try where we ended up with the scrum. Assume it was disallowed for a knock on, but he gave a prior infringement against Hull? Either way, they came in quick succession of each other, and I wasn't a happy man. '"
I think we knocked on while scoring and so I think that was a correct call. The penalty for not square was wrong and they scored soon after. Idiotic decision from Childs. You have to play the ball when tackled and the Hull player did. No one there and we get penalised. It should have been play on. Game changer IMO.
Quote However, I thought the game was generally played in the right spirit by both teams - very little messing around at the play the ball, or niggly shots, and far more positives than negatives for us. So overall, an unexpectedly enjoyable evening for about 79 mins 50 seconds.'"
I thought Hull took exception to Andy Powell merely being on the pitch but maybe that is no bad thing.
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| Quote ="Bilko"Dunno but even if Child didn't its common sense to put it back on themselves surely.'"
dont the rules say ..the referee is the sole timekeeper?..therefore the clock operators would in effect be over ruling him?
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