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| Usually sit in the south but sat in the east on Friday thinking there might be some atmosphere but seems to be getting worse by the week. Something needs doing in my opinion whether it be by the club or the fans
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| Quote ="wigan_rugby"Usually sit in the south but sat in the east on Friday thinking there might be some atmosphere but seems to be getting worse by the week. Something needs doing in my opinion whether it be by the club or the fans'"
It is called apathy, accepting the inevitable.
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| Totally agree even with a good crowd like Friday there is still no atmosphere. I am not sure how this can be remedied.
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| Playing a full strength team in a game which decided who would be champions might have helped !!!
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| All seater stadia ?
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| Quote ="fleabag"All seater stadia ?'"
Actually I thought the atmosphere was pretty good on Friday. The main problem was there wasn't much to cheer after the first 15 minutes.
We can't fault the club for managing to pull 19,000 people in to watch Huddersfield. I bet that won't happen anywhere else this season, unless the Giants make it to Old Trafford.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Actually I thought the atmosphere was pretty good on Friday. The main problem was there wasn't much to cheer after the first 15 minutes.
We can't fault the club for managing to pull 19,000 people in to watch Huddersfield. I bet that won't happen anywhere else this season, unless the Giants make it to Old Trafford.'"
I thought the atmosphere and size of the crowd probably contributed to Huddersfield looking a bit like rabbits in the headlights in the first 15 minutes but once they settled down they seemed fine.
Think the Wigan crowd will certainly be tested at Wembley, just hope they have something to cheer about for the full 80 this time!
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| There has been a mixed atmosphere at the DW for a while i know but I've noticed when I have gone to away games, we have had the terraces rocking with chants as everyone joins in whereas at home people just stay silent maybe because like an earlier post said the lack of away fans make some people think why chant when theres no opposition to antagonise.
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| Quote ="fleabag"All seater stadia ?'"
Its not being all seater but too big a capacity for a town the size of Wigan.
20,000 would have been better.
Even the Latic's could not fill it with Premiership football.
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| Quote ="Gurney Slade"Its not being all seater but too big a capacity for a town the size of Wigan.
20,000 would have been better.
Even the Latic's could not fill it with Premiership football.'"
Plus the roof at North Stand amplifies sound more from what I have been told due to it having a different material.
When the Latic's first played there, it was a home stand with their visitors in the East Stand but was changed for some reason.
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| Just received a survey from the club, some of the questions were about the atmosphere at the DW Stadium and ask for suggestions of how to improve it.
In previous seasons we had the S2 Brigantes who created their own atmosphere with singing, drumming and flags. The club to some extent contributed to the disbanding of this group of supporters. I know there was some trouble at the Huddersfield away game but this was done by a small minority of people.
Also I read comments (on these forums) from fans complaining about the noise and drumming that this group of supporters created.
If 500 traveling fans can create an atmosphere whatever has gone wrong with our own support.
We have the flags in the South Stand gantry so somebody must be interested in the match day experience.
Bring back the S2/S1 Brigantes.
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| Quote ="Gurney Slade"=#FF0000Plus the roof at North Stand amplifies sound more from what I have been told due to it having a different material.
When the Latic's first played there, it was a home stand with their visitors in the East Stand but was changed for some reason.'"
Load of tash, just excuses how can our sound be amplified when it's on permanent mute.
I've seen 500 Cas fans in the East Stand this year show us just how much excuse it is.
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| Quote ="caswigan"Just received a survey from the club, some of the questions were about the atmosphere at the DW Stadium and ask for suggestions of how to improve it.
In previous seasons we had the S2 Brigantes who created their own atmosphere with singing, drumming and flags. The club to some extent contributed to the disbanding of this group of supporters. I know there was some trouble at the Huddersfield away game but this was done by a small minority of people.
Also I read comments (on these forums) from fans complaining about the noise and drumming that this group of supporters created.
If 500 traveling fans can create an atmosphere whatever has gone wrong with our own support.
We have the flags in the South Stand gantry so somebody must be interested in the match day experience.
Bring back the S2/S1 Brigantes.'"
Seen the survey, it does seem the club are trying to at least understand if not rectify the problem, and it is a problem.
I'd like to see our fans as a whole do the same, after all generally it is what 'supporters' are there for.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Brigantes?'"
Quite.
It seems you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.
Drummers too load and annoying...
Singing is monotonous...
Flags are obstructing my view...
Attracting wrong sort of image...
'Brigantes', 'Ultras'... Think they're better fans than the rest of us...
I can't sit were I want to because the Brigantes are there...
Result, Brigantes disband.
Now we're moaning about the atmosphere again. We've come full circle.
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| What a very ironic thread.
Brilliant.
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| Quote ="Pemps"Quite.
It seems you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.
Drummers too load and annoying...
Singing is monotonous...
Flags are obstructing my view...
Attracting wrong sort of image...
'Brigantes', 'Ultras'... Think they're better fans than the rest of us...
I can't sit were I want to because the Brigantes are there...
[uResult, Brigantes disband.[/u
Now we're moaning about the atmosphere again. We've come full circle.'"
I know you know BUT
None of the reasons above IMO are the reason it came to an end.
I've let my views be known on numerous occasions "In House" but not prepared to go over them on here because it will only lead to arguments from both sides of the fence
I will add that the "Original Flags" will still be erected as & when I can (With help from a couple of the other originals) although this is getting harder to do due to work commitments for a couple of people changing.
Ive been asked by the club to discuss some ideas this week but my concern is that anything started again will be assosciated with some of the problems that happened earlier in the year (And a couple before that) and I for one will not let my name or those of others be assosciated with what went on & I can't see how the 2 can ever be seperated again.
Most of the issues you mention were being dealt with satisfactorilly apart from the "Wrong type of image" one and ultimately that is what led to the main reason it ended IMO.
A few of the originals have discussed this numerous times when we have had our get togethers for a few pints and a rugby chat (Yes we still have them) and ultimately it's this difference of opinion on what Path things should take that led to the end of things (Again IMO).
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| The Brigantes started off as a good idea. A section of fans sat together trying to get atmosphere going in a ground that has lacked it - nobody should have an issue with that. The problem is that what should have been a positive thing that brought fans together quickly descended into being a group of 19 year old Danny Dyer wannabees giving it large, covering their faces and setting off smoke bombs, who constantly complained on here that nobody liked them.
That said, I would like it if something similar was brought back. I just struggle to see how it could be policed to prevent it turning into the gawp-fest it became last time
To summarise
Pros:
More vocal atmosphere
Some good new songs - just can't get enough, cherry and white it's in our blood
Flags on the gantry
Cons:
Noticable increase in fights/arguing amongst fans
The Huddersfield nonsense
Some crap songs - up up and away, can't think of others
Fans going for the "ultra" look with scarves etc covering faces
Just a daft amount of flags. Did everyone sat in S1 really need to bring their own?
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| yay, another brigantes thread, its been a while!!!
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| Quote ="[Gareth"yay, another brigantes thread, its been a while!!!'"
Just like the old days...
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| The flags will probably continue, but i know first hand that the group that was creating the atmosphere and producing in stand displays still go to games but have completely gone there seperate ways, it will never return, along with atmosphere at home games. Many reasons why it happened, not just huddersfield, a lot that probably most on here will never know about.
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"Just like the old days...'"
ive issed them...
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| Quote ="21-12"The flags will probably continue, but i know first hand that the group that was creating the atmosphere and producing in stand displays still go to games but have completely gone there seperate ways, it will never return, along with atmosphere at home games. Many reasons why it happened, not just huddersfield, a lot that probably most on here will never know about.'"
Or care about.
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| Quote ="21-12"The flags will probably continue, but i know first hand that the group that was creating the atmosphere and producing in stand displays still go to games but have completely gone there seperate ways, it will never return, along with atmosphere at home games. Many reasons why it happened, not just huddersfield, a lot that probably most on here will never know about.'"
and why is that?
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| Quote ="[Gareth"and why is that?'"
I would hazard a guess that when people (fans) were asked to come to the meetings and give their input and/or constructive criticism the majority couldn't be bothered but prefered to be keyboard warriors and criticize without understanding what was hoping to be achieved and the problems incurred.
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