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| Any word on how bad the injury is?
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| Irrespective how how bad his hand injury is,It certainly won't effect his defense should he play on with it
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| Quote ="trent"Irrespective how how bad his hand injury is,It certainly won't effect his defense should he play on with it'"
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| Quote ="Grimmy"sleepy.gif'"
Josh is without doubt the best and most elusive finisher in this league, but his defense is woeful against the best wingers like Hall, or don't you agree that this is the part of his game that needs to be improved?
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| Quote ="trent"Josh is without doubt the best and most elusive finisher in this league, but his defense is woeful against the best wingers like Hall, or don't you agree that this is the part of his game that needs to be improved?'"
I was expressing a concern over an injured player, why use it as an opportunity to slate him? FWIW think he's easily our best option on the wing but does tend to struggle defensively, as does Goulding inside him, but that's not what the thread's about!
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| Quote ="trent"Josh is without doubt the best and most elusive finisher in this league, but his defense is woeful against the best wingers like Hall, or don't you agree that this is the part of his game that needs to be improved?'"
Josh is one of the better defensive Wingers out there, considering his age. He is immaculate under the high ball also. If you look at him from the 2011 season compared to now, you will see how far his defence has come.
In regards to his injury, nothing has been mentioned post match or otherwise, so I would assume he's okay with it.
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| Quote ="Jeff the God of Biscuits"Josh is one of the better defensive Wingers out there, considering his age. He is immaculate under the high ball also. If you look at him from the 2011 season compared to now, you will see how far his defence has come.
In regards to his injury, nothing has been mentioned post match or otherwise, so I would assume he's okay with it.'"
Was he good defensively when he shot off his wing to defend Meli for the first try last night, leaving Swift with a simple walk in?
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| I give up, mods can you delete this?
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| any one else notice that even before the injury Josh hardly took the ball up at all? Thought he was very quiet, and possibly nursing something?
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Was he good defensively when he shot off his wing to defend Meli for the first try last night, leaving Swift with a simple walk in?'"
Did you see how Wilkin stood on his hand too?
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| Quote ="goobervision"Did you see how Wilkin stood on his hand too?'"
Yes I saw Wilkin accidentally connect with his hand whilst making a tackle. And it was more of a kick than a stand/stamp.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Yes I saw Wilkin accidentally connect with his hand whilst making a tackle. And it was more of a kick than a stand/stamp.'"
So you are saying that Wiklin kicked Charley while on the floor accidentally? I thought you had played this game.
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| Quote ="goobervision"So you are saying that Wiklin kicked Charley while on the floor accidentally? I thought you had played this game.'"
I've played it for a good 22 years.
Firstly, I am not sure who Wiklin and Charley are. However, what I am saying is that in the act of assisting Swift with the tackle on Charnley, Wilkin appeared to accidentally kick Charnley in the wrist area.
Look at Wilkin's eyes and where he is looking. That will give an indication of his intentions.
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| Those blades on modern boots are dangerous IMHO. Will hurt like hell.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"I've played it for a good 22 years.
Firstly, I am not sure who Wiklin and Charley are. However, what I am saying is that in the act of assisting Swift with the tackle on Charnley, Wilkin appeared to accidentally kick Charnley in the wrist area.
=#FF0000Look at Wilkin's eyes and where he is looking. That will give an indication of his intentions.'"
I remember McIlorums eyes looking toward the play the ball on Good Friday, and colliding with Wellens, but there were Saints fans writing to every source saying that he had decapitated Wellens.
I believe you were one of the hanging judges.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I remember McIlorums eyes looking toward the play the ball on Good Friday, and colliding with Wellens, but there were Saints fans writing to every source saying that he had decapitated Wellens.
I believe you were one of the hanging judges.'"
I wasn't. I didn't see the incident at the game clearly and I didn't see any replays of it, therefore couldn't pass judgement on what punishment, if any, that creature should receive.
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| Quote ="endoman"any one else notice that even before the injury Josh hardly took the ball up at all? Thought he was very quiet, and possibly nursing something?'"
Put a good centre inside him and watch him become the greatest winger in the league, Josh is outstanding, Daz isn't.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Put a good centre inside him and watch him become the greatest winger in the league, Josh is outstanding, Daz isn't.'"
Daz is clearly playing through injury. His defensive positioning is second to none in this league and imo his centreplay has been better than, say, Gleeson's ever was for us.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"I wasn't. I didn't see the incident at the game clearly and I didn't see any replays of it, therefore couldn't pass judgement on what punishment, if any, that creature should receive.'"
Oh look, the Wenger defense....
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| Goulding and Charnley are usually solid, but both appear to have been trying to play through injury over the majority of the season. Seems unfair that Sam gets rested when he has niggles but Charnley's still out there every game.
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| And FWIW. Wilkin didn't kick, he stood on his hand.
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| All the shuffling around isn't helping anybody at the minute and I thought the first two try's for Saints were a product of that. I doubt they'd have scores those first two in that manner had Hansen been over there as he normally is.
On the subject of Goulding, his form hasn't hit last years heights but you feel he's been playing with knocks for the majority of the season which isn't ideal. He's still doing a job but it'd be nice if he could stay fit until the end of the year now. I've got far bigger worries about that other centre spot at the moment. I've always backed Gelling and I still believe he will develop in to a good player but he's too hit and miss at the minute. He's undoubtably a handful for defences but there are just too many errors in his game and he needs to cut them out. He played himself out of a cup semi spot IMO on Monday and I'd bring Thornley back in.
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"Oh look, the Wenger defense....'"
Come on mate, you're not even making sense now. The Wenger defence refers to the fact he claims he nevers sees incidents that involve his own players doing things they shouldn't. Seeing as this clearly isn't the case in this instance, you are talking nonsense.
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| Wilkin doing anything accidentally .....give me a break
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Come on mate, you're not even making sense now. The Wenger defence refers to the fact he claims he nevers sees incidents that involve his own players doing things they shouldn't. Seeing as this clearly isn't the case in this instance, you are talking nonsense.'"
What is nonsense is that you saying you’re not trolling, you are! I see your topic, Tackling technique was locked out, why do you think? You go on about the Charnley Wilkin incident from Monday’s game one that I have hardly seen mentioned on here as foul-play. I for one don’t think JW is that kind of player. No hombre what all this is about is that you came on here last week and got ripped, you’re p*ssed off now and acting like a fly round a bulls a*se. If I was you I would go home for a bit and come back with something a little more constructive to start to get your own back. There’s a line when it stops being fun or funny and you’ve crossed it now.
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