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Burke (Rotate at Loose)
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In Squad but to Miss out
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Thats a winning team we should throw 50 up em if we turn that team out!
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| Turning a team out is the easy bit, playing as a team is where we have issues of late.
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| Where do we have issues?
We lost at Wire but the team out there gave evrything and played very well indeed.
The loss to Cas was a management mistake. Sending players out to back up four days after the grulling game at Wire was as unprofessional as it can get.
The players couldn't put one foot in front of the other. They also didn't learn from Huddersfield's experience of having to do the same thing v HKR four days after beating Leeds at Headingly. IMO it wasn't the players who were responsible for the defeat to Cas.
They played poorly v Bradford for 60 mins but like it or not it was won in the last 20.
I don't think we've issues, what issues btw?
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| Quote ="Bostonslugholes"Thats a winning team we should throw 50 up em if we turn that team out!'"
The game is Widnes' last play this season, lose and they're on their end of season party.
Not expecting them to win, but expect a big effort.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Where do we have issues?
We lost at Wire but the team out there gave evrything and played very well indeed.
The loss to Cas was a management mistake. Sending players out to back up four days after the grulling game at Wire was as unprofessional as it can get.
The players couldn't put one foot in front of the other. They also didn't learn from Huddersfield's experience of having to do the same thing v HKR four days after beating Leeds at Headingly. IMO it wasn't the players who were responsible for the defeat to Cas.
They played poorly v Bradford for 60 mins but like it or not it was won in the last 20.
I don't think we've issues, what issues btw?'"
I don't have any issues with the wire game as everyone played exceptional, as for being unprofessional, would it have therefore been "unprofessional" to send out a complete reserve team against Castleford if this is what your saying, Where then do you draw the line on professionalism or "spirit of the game" as some like to call it.
As for issues I think we have far too many players playing as individuals rather than as a team at the moment, this from the more experienced players, maybe they are trying to hard or something I don't know, however for me....its an issue.
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Quote ="Bostonslugholes"Jesus Christ
can we not start a new topic without somebody moaning about somehting or another, i bet you was one of the people BOOING at halftime on friday wasn't you
??? Ive got a new forum which might suit you better i dont think this forum is suited to man of your limited intellectual capabilities follow the link - www.cockneylatic.co.uk
Happy Camping
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Do you have to do that every time someone disagrees with you? It's moronic. Anyway, back on topic:
FB 1 Sam
RW 2 Charnley
RC 3 Goulding
LC 22 Gelling
LW 5 Richards
SO 6 Green
SH 7 Smith
P 15 Flower
H 9 McIlorum
P 26 Crosby
SR 11 Hansen
SR 16 Tuson
LF 12 Farrell
S 10 Mossop
S 20 Dudson
S 29 Burke
S 32 Hampshire
If Lockers is fit stick him at loose, Farrell to second row, Tuson to the bench, Burke to drop out.
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Quote ="Bostonslugholes"Jesus Christ
can we not start a new topic without somebody moaning about somehting or another, i bet you was one of the people BOOING at halftime on friday wasn't you
??? Ive got a new forum which might suit you better i dont think this forum is suited to man of your limited intellectual capabilities follow the link - www.cockneylatic.co.uk
Happy Camping
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Do you have to do that every time someone disagrees with you? It's moronic. Anyway, back on topic:
FB 1 Sam
RW 2 Charnley
RC 3 Goulding
LC 22 Gelling
LW 5 Richards
SO 6 Green
SH 7 Smith
P 15 Flower
H 9 McIlorum
P 26 Crosby
SR 11 Hansen
SR 16 Tuson
LF 12 Farrell
S 10 Mossop
S 20 Dudson
S 29 Burke
S 32 Hampshire
If Lockers is fit stick him at loose, Farrell to second row, Tuson to the bench, Burke to drop out.
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| Quote ="Bostonslugholes"
In Squad but to Miss out
S.Powell
Gelling'"
Not sure why you think Gelling should miss out? 3 solid performances, much better in defense than Thornley.
Out of the 3 tries Bradford scored, 2 of them were on Thornley and Charnleys side of the field. Ill be very surprised if Gelling doesn't play on Monday, he deserves his place in the team at the minute.
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| Quote ="NSmart96"Not sure why you think Gelling should miss out? 3 solid performances, much better in defense than Thornley.
Out of the 3 tries Bradford scored, 2 of them were on Thornley and Charnleys side of the field. Ill be very surprised if Gelling doesn't play on Monday,=#FF0000 he deserves his place in the team at the minute.'"
For me Gelling and Tuson where the only 2 players who showed up against Bradford
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| Latest from SW on players returning :
"Ryan Hampshire turned his ankle and has again today in training. Michael McIlorum has a slight problem with his knee but I am expecting him to be fit.
"There is a good chance on Lee Mossop being fit for next week, there is less of a chance on Sam Tomkins and a chance for Sean O'Loughlin but even less than a chance for him. I would say its 90%, 50% and 30% chance on those players being fit and ready for the Widnes game."
On other injuries, Shaun added,
"Scott Taylor is still not running with his hipflexor, he is three weeks off and Hame is also 3 or so weeks off. Darrell Goulding should be OK to return so we will have three centres for two spaces with Gells and Iain so that's good."
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H 9 McIlorum
P 26 Crosby
SR 11 Hansen
SR 16 Tuson
LF 12 Farrell
S 10 Mossop
S 20 Dudson
S 29 Burke
S 32 Hampshire / Williams
If Lockers is fit stick him at loose, Farrell to second row, Tuson to the bench, Burke to drop out.
Sam is only 50/50 save him for St Helens.
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| Doubt Lockers will be right but pretty sure Sam Tomkins will be fit (was he even injured? Doubt it).
If so I'd go-
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Doubt Lockers will be right but pretty sure Sam Tomkins will be fit (was he even injured? Doubt it). '"
I really dont think Sam is injured. Now his move to NZW has been agreed, i think Wane gave him two weeks rest and recover for the latter end of the season and so Wane can see where Tierney and Hampshire are at. I dont think either are ready and thats why were obviously looking to bring in Minichello. I agree, Tomkins will definitely play on Monday.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Doubt Lockers will be right but pretty sure Sam Tomkins will be fit (was he even injured? Doubt it).
If so I'd go-
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Richards
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Crosby
McIlorum
Flower
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Farrell
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Hughes
Burke'"
I'd be happy with that, strongest we'll have been for a while. And hopefully the 10 day rest has given the players who have come back from long injuries chance to get fully fit.
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| Quote ="ShortArse"Latest from SW on players returning :
"Ryan Hampshire turned his ankle and has again today in training. Michael McIlorum has a slight problem with his knee but I am expecting him to be fit.
"There is a good chance on Lee Mossop being fit for next week, there is less of a chance on Sam Tomkins and a chance for Sean O'Loughlin but even less than a chance for him. I would say its 90%, 50% and 30% chance on those players being fit and ready for the Widnes game."
On other injuries, Shaun added,
"Scott Taylor is still not running with his hipflexor, he is three weeks off and Hame is also 3 or so weeks off. Darrell Goulding should be OK to return so we will have three centres for two spaces with Gells and Iain so that's good."'"
Bloody hell, didn't realise about Hampshire. Maybe stick Tierney on the bench as cover, if Wane feels bold he could bring him on at full back with Sam shifting to the halves. Alright it's a bit of rejigging during the game, but it could really make life difficult for Widnes, they'll be training all week to shut down the best player in the league at full back, suddenly he's coming at them from different positions. Could make it very tough to defend against him. I remember this tactic working well against Leeds away when we came back to draw, think it was 2011.
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| Quote ="NSmart96"I really dont think Sam is injured. Now his move to NZW has been agreed, i think Wane gave him two weeks rest and recover for the latter end of the season and so Wane can see where Tierney and Hampshire are at. I dont think either are ready and thats why were obviously looking to bring in Minichello. I agree, Tomkins will definitely play on Monday.'"
Sam is definitely injured and is unlikely to play on Monday.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Do you have to do that every time someone disagrees with you? It's moronic. Anyway, back on topic:.'"
Sorry i forgot you was one of Shaun Wanes advisors, all hail grimmy
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| Quote ="Bostonslugholes"icon_stupid.gif Sorry i forgot you was one of Shaun Wanes advisors, all hail grimmy
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No I just think it's daft that when ever anyone has a different take on things to that of the club, you start calling them stupid and tell them to go and support Warrington/Wigan Athletic. The forums would be incredibly boring if everyone had the same opinion as each other and the club. Are you really so naïve that you think that the club/Shaun Wane gets it right 100% of the time? Or so stubborn that you think everyone who disagrees with you is stupid, or disloyal to the club?
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| Il level with you, i started a positive thread speculating on what team shaun might put out and the first reply is a negative one slating the team again do you think that this is acceptable??
We are top of the league with an injury list as long as your arm can stretch, im simply making the point that some people just cant be happy with us still winning with half a team of young kids and players not back to their full fitness.
I also dont think it's acceptable slating our young kids on here, if they where to read some of the comments that some morons put on here what do you think it might do to their confidence?? At the end of the day if they are looking for a positive response from writing slanderous remarks about players on here you must be living on cloud nine.
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| Quote ="Bostonslugholes":1hq87la7Il level with you, i started a positive thread speculating on what team shaun might put out and the first reply is a negative one slating the team again do you think that this is acceptable??
We are top of the league with an injury list as long as your arm can stretch, im simply making the point that some people just cant be happy with us still winning with half a team of young kids and players not back to their full fitness.
I also dont think it's acceptable slating our young kids on here, if they where to read some of the comments that some morons put on here what do you think it might do to their confidence?? At the end of the day if they are looking for a positive response from writing slanderous remarks about players on here you must be living on cloud nine.'" If I want to say that Ryan Hampshire is turd and we should swap him for Richie Mathers, i'm allowed to say that. You're allowed to disagree, of course, but, you aren't allowed to abuse me for having that opinion.
Of course that isn't my opinion, but even if it was, i'm allowed to express it freely.
I have yet to see anything on here which even borders on 'Slander', if you see such a post, there is a 'report' option on each post, which will alert the mods to the post.
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| Quote ="Jeff the God of Biscuits"It's a forum, we can say what we want [within the legal constraints of the law, obviously If I want to say that Ryan Hampshire is turd and we should swap him for Richie Mathers, i'm allowed to say that. You're allowed to disagree, of course, but, you aren't allowed to abuse me for having that opinion.
Of course that isn't my opinion, but even if it was, i'm allowed to express it freely.
I have yet to see anything on here which even borders on 'Slander', if you see such a post, there is a 'report' option on each post, which will alert the mods to the post.'"
Ok then lets just let it carry on then free speech slating young lads who are trying to make a name for themselves, it's perfectly normal!
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| Quote ="Bostonslugholes"Ok then lets just let it carry on then free speech slating young lads who are trying to make a name for themselves, it's perfectly normal!'"
Yeah it is perfectly normal, as stupid as it sounds...not everybody agrees with you! Fancy that.
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| Quote ="Bostonslugholes"Ok then lets just let it carry on then free speech slating young lads who are trying to make a name for themselves, it's perfectly normal!'"
Nobody is slating any of the young lads? You posted your prediction for the team on monday. People have disagreed with your team selection. Whats the big deal?
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