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| Quote ="EFCWARRIOR"Hats off to 'hareandhounds'...got it spot on last night at 'Posted: 27 Sep 2012 20:30''"
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| Should be the last time we see Murphy in Wigan colours. Can't play FB if you can't catch, lad.
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| Quote ="P-J"Should be the last time we see Murphy in Wigan colours. Can't play FB if you can't catch, lad.'"
What an awful comment. Said by somebody who has obviously never had the experience of playing Full Back and dealing with those type of kicks. The vast majority of Full Back's in the league wouldn't have caught them.
By your own yardstick Sam Tomkins should never be in Wigan colours again either.
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| Would you like him to replace Wellens?
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| Quote ="P-J"Would you like him to replace Wellens?'"
Wellens would have caught it. Well, he probably wouldn't have got there, but if he did he would have caught it. By the way, that line won't work, I already think Wellens is two years out of date and we should be exploring other in house options in that position.
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| The irony is that an under 20's match Murphy's parents were saying how Russell wasn't good enough under the high ball to play FB. That was truly dreadful tonight. Doubt we will see him again now. Might see him in the same style jersey but it will be in Leigh.
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| Quote ="Cherry_Warrior"The irony is that an under 20's match Murphy's parents were saying how Russell wasn't good enough under the high ball to play FB. That was truly dreadful tonight. Doubt we will see him again now. Might see him in the same style jersey but it will be in Leigh.'"
Do you have your scapegoat Cherry?
Must be strange not being able to blame the ref or the RFL.
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| My scapegoat was around 12 players on that pitch in cherry and white not being mentally good enough. Sinfield was just awesome.
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| Anybody who as ever played fullback will know what a horrible and lonely place it is when that happens. All you keyboard warriors who have never played are jumping on his back over one mistake.
Yes it cost us but even the greatest fullbacks drop bollox, Billy Slater is a prime example.
How many times as Sam let it bounce?dropped it but no one would leave him out of the team. Murphy showed enough attacking ability tonight to show that he as a future at the Warriors
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| Quote ="Cherry_Warrior"My scapegoat was around 12 players on that pitch in cherry and white not being mentally good enough. Sinfield was just awesome.'"
If you want a scape goat blame Wane for not giving Murphy some games when Tommy was out injured. Instead he went with Lockers at 6 (which didn't work v Leeds in the cup semi final as it never does against the better sides) and so once Sam was injured we had a rookie in the key no 1 position.
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| Quote ="MOUSE13"Anybody who as ever played fullback will know what a horrible and lonely place it is when that happens. All you keyboard warriors who have never played are jumping on his back over one mistake.
Yes it cost us but even the greatest fullbacks drop bollox, Billy Slater is a prime example.
How many times as Sam let it bounce?dropped it but no one would leave him out of the team. Murphy showed enough attacking ability tonight to show that he as a future at the Warriors'"
All of this, don't think the lad did too bad tonight. I'm just glad that those of you that come on here to knock him have f'all to do with the game.
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| Not Jack Murphy's fault we had no real gameplan and learned very little from the CC semi- final.
Not his fault he was given very little game time during the season as we went all out for the (very) minor premiership.
Not his fault we had no idea how to take a short kick off at the end of the game because we barely practised one all season.
He'll be a good player for Wigan if he is given game time and Sam is moved to 6 to improve our tactical kicking.
Which will not happen unfortunately.
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| Im not blaming Murphy individually but he was the main reason we lost tonight. I wont congratulate and cover him in cotton wool for not being able to catch numerous balls. You learn to catch at an early age and dropping balls should be a minimum regardless of age. He has played in front of good crowds for the under 20's so the occasion is no excuse.
The way he approached his catches was quite shocking. Leaning back and holding his arms outstretched. That is not how to catch a ball im afraid.
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| Finch cost us the game with dumb play when we were ahead.
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| Anyone blaming Murphy is deluded. The lad did fine in such an intense game. Yes he dropped a couple, so has Tomkins, so did Radlinski, even the superb Wellens drops some. In that intense a game, in a team often on the back foot, in slippery/rainy conditions, with a ball spiralling and swirling in the air, he did fine.
Wigan lost it in the forwards and around the ruck, not because of the fullback
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| He's playing with the big boys now so giving him false praise is no good either. Showed a few glimpses he might be a squad player at best but the way he approached the ball when catching was horrendous! Some fault should lie with the coaching staff if you're putting someone in the firing line like that.
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| Quote ="Him"Anyone blaming Murphy is deluded. The lad did fine in such an intense game. Yes he dropped a couple, so has Tomkins, so did Radlinski, even the superb Wellens drops some. In that intense a game, in a team often on the back foot, in slippery/rainy conditions, with a ball spiralling and swirling in the air, he did fine.
Wigan lost it in the forwards and around the ruck, not because of the fullback'"
Spot on for me.
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| he was solid up untill the last few catches. have we all forgotten that catch and run he did in the opening 10.
don't try to blame the result on anything. the game could have gone either way and what a great game of rl
it was. wire had that last minute sinfield conversion to put us out last year. fair play to leeds tonight. if it was the
wigan of 2 or 3 months back then i would say that you were the best performing side all year by a mile,
like wire were last season. the way you played rl in those few months was frightening to see as a wire fan
and im sure for all the other fans.
hold your heads high after this season. with mguire going to the nrl and other factors, i think you've been
outstanding this year and i personally think that wayne has brought an extra attacking element above the
rl attacking moves that mguire brought,as great as a coach as mguire is.
onwards and upwards.
I hope not, but i'll probably be saying the same thing tomorrow night v saints but i really
hope not. should be a cracker.
the best sport in the world
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Spot on for me.'"
and me, forwards only turned up in the 2nd half. lockers at 9...again....Wane wake up! our kicking games was awful, ever when in a good position, how many repeat sets, how many kicks on 5th where we actually created pressure!
god help us next year.........
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| The 'fault' doesnt lay with Jack Murphy for the mistakes he made tonight.
For me, it was just unbelievable that Waney would drop an inexperienced kid into such a pivotal position in such a crucial game!
Utterly baffling, CRAZY decision.
Murphy looks to have real potential, and i just worry that his confidence will be absolutely shattered by what happened tonight.
For mine, Pat should have been slotted into FB with Sam out. Not even a decision to be made really.
Wasnt Murphy's inexperience that cost us our GF place...........In reality it was Shaun Wanes.
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| Quote ="Carneys Cover"and me, forwards only turned up in the 2nd half. lockers at 9...again....Wane wake up! our kicking games was awful, ever when in a good position, how many repeat sets, how many kicks on 5th where we actually created pressure!
god help us next year.........'"
The only thing the poster missed out was Sinfield. That was probably one of the best tacitcal kicking displays I have ever seen. It was utterly sublime. I was baffled by his ability to place the ball anywhere he wanted at points tonight.
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| To blame Murphy would just be ridiculous. He did remarkably well considering he got injured about 5 minutes in and was struggling throughout most of the game.
Those kicks from Sinfield were excellent and every single fullback in the league would have found them difficult to deal with. It's alright saying Richards could have played fullback but he would have struggled with those kicks too. It's great being tall and being able to catch when challenged but when the ball is moving all over the place when kicked there's not much you can do but hope you get in the right place.
The biggest mistake was not closing Sinfield down and allowing him to put kicks like that up with ease. Wire showed how important it is to close him down but the defence didn't have the intensity and failed to put him under pressure.
Murphy was probably the safest pair of hands we could have had at fullback tonight, sometimes you've just go to credit excellent kicking and bemoan poor pressuring.
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