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| I would like to put forward a suggestion that at our next home game shown on sky as a crowd we all stand up on the fourth minute and give our support with the AJJ salute for one minute.
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| Haven't you already suggested this?
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| Yes. And what is wrong with reminding people of it?
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| Quote ="zx636"Yes. And what is wrong with reminding people of it?'"
Nothing. I just thought I'd imagined it.
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| Spoke with Jack's dad today. Told him what I was trying to do and he asked if we could also do it against saints too.
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| Why the 4th minute?
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| Quote ="FIOS"Why the 4th minute?'"
Jack's age I presume.
Quote ="zx636"Spoke with Jack's dad today. Told him what I was trying to do and he asked if we could also do it against saints too.'"
That's the day I'd do it.
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| Yes Jack is four. Just thought if we did it in the big one then more people would be aware of it for the saints game that's all.
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| Hmmm, not sure.
I'm all for All Join Jack, have donated money and will continue to watch with interest. The whole scenario is heartbreaking.
But - I'm sure I'm not the only supporter who doesn't feel comfortable with public salute-making.
It's getting to the point where if we don't join our fingers up, then we are assumed to not support the cause, which isn't true. By all means if you want to do the salute, then of course you must do it, but I don't think it's fair to effectively COMPEL everyone to do it, especially those who choose to support the cause in other ways.
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"Hmmm, not sure.
I'm all for All Join Jack, have donated money and will continue to watch with interest. The whole scenario is heartbreaking.
But - I'm sure I'm not the only supporter who doesn't feel comfortable with public salute-making.
It's getting to the point where if we don't join our fingers up, then we are assumed to not support the cause, which isn't true. By all means if you want to do the salute, then of course you must do it, but I don't think it's fair to effectively COMPEL everyone to do it, especially those who choose to support the cause in other ways.'"
Agree.
There will be a lot of people at those games who will be unaware of what is going on. If they don't stand then it may appear a little "divided"
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Agree.
There will be a lot of people at those games who will be unaware of what is going on. If they don't stand then it may appear a little "divided"'"
Too right. Then you get some smart shouting "stand up you miserable sod", the atmosphere goes sour, and everyone forgets what you're supposed to be doing this for. I don't like the idea.
The AJJ salute, and the cause itself, will get much more media and public attention if sports stars and celebrities continue doing it wherever there is a camera - as happens now - than a load of unknowns at a rugby ground. Public awareness is doing fine as it is, I reckon.
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| If you were going to do it at a match, the only way to go about it would be to let everybody know. That means leaflets at the stadium, something in the programme, announcements etc.
Might be easier to do it just before kick off as well. Get all the players and officials etc in a line like a national anthem and ask everyone to join them. That way noone can really miss it.
That and the picture of an entire stadium standing and doing it would surely promote quite well, especially if you get a few of the celebs involved and reitred players there doing it. Would be a great showcase for the cause.
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| Quote ="zx636"I didnt realise what a bunch of knobs wrote on this forum! Hope non of your families have to deal with such a tradgedy and people dont want to help. You can ban me as I don't really want to be part of this forum anymore. You try and support causes and this is what you get thrown back. Disgusting!!!'"
excuse me pal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
plenty people who post on here havnt contributed the this thread, but they have contributed to the charity...........its a bit unfair to call people "knobs" just because they happen to disagree with you.
try posting on the Latics forum if you want to post drivel
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| Quote ="zx636"I didnt realise what a bunch of knobs wrote on this forum! Hope non of your families have to deal with such a tradgedy and people dont want to help. You can ban me as I don't really want to be part of this forum anymore. You try and support causes and this is what you get thrown back. Disgusting!!!'"
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| Quote ="zx636"I didnt realise what a bunch of knobs wrote on this forum! Hope non of your families have to deal with such a tradgedy and people dont want to help. You can ban me as I don't really want to be part of this forum anymore. You try and support causes and this is what you get thrown back. Disgusting!!!'"
Odd response, as far as I can see there have been a few people suggesting that the 4 min thing may not work. I can't see that anything for a 1 min section of any game could ever be co-ordinated, what about:
a) people who don't hear
b) people who don't do
c) people who forget as they are watching a game
d) anything in the game that would distract
I don't think that anyone has said "no" in the thread, and even if they did - it's up to them! Unfortunately the kind of attitude that you are showing is exactly what turns people away from giving/supporting.
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| Quote ="zx636"I didnt realise what a bunch of knobs wrote on this forum! Hope non of your families have to deal with such a tradgedy and people dont want to help. You can ban me as I don't really want to be part of this forum anymore. You try and support causes and this is what you get thrown back. Disgusting!!!'"
You have just done this worthy cause more harm than toungue can tell with your childish attitude . Watch you dont trip over your rattle as you leave .
Plenty of people on Saturday at the Stoop who might not be the type of people who would join in a demonstration of support as suggested were putting in handful of coins / notes into buckets to support this worthy cause .Each to their own way of support . Bye Bye .
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| Quote ="zx636"I didnt realise what a bunch of knobs wrote on this forum! Hope non of your families have to deal with such a tradgedy and people dont want to help. You can ban me as I don't really want to be part of this forum anymore. You try and support causes and this is what you get thrown back. Disgusting!!!'"
What a well thought out, grown up response to some constructive feedback.
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| Quote ="zx636"I didnt realise what a bunch of knobs wrote on this forum! Hope non of your families have to deal with such a tradgedy and people dont want to help. You can ban me as I don't really want to be part of this forum anymore. You try and support causes and this is what you get thrown back. Disgusting!!!'"
Don't talk soft!
No-one on here has said we shouldn't support the cause, and everyone on here has said that they do support it!
I suggest you go back and READ what people have said, including the bit where you will get some idiot saying 'stand up you miserable sod'. Clearly that idiot would be you, wouldn't it?
Wind your neck in, and remember what AJJ is all about. It's about Jack. Not you.
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"Don't talk soft!
No-one on here has said we shouldn't support the cause, and everyone on here has said that they do support it!
I suggest you go back and READ what people have said, including the bit where you will get some idiot saying 'stand up you miserable sod'. Clearly that idiot would be you, wouldn't it?
Wind your neck in, and remember what AJJ is all about. It's about Jack. Not you.'"
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| If when we play saints wouldn't it be better to request on the 4th minute the ref stocks the clock and all players and fans do it?? That way everyone will have an idea of whats happening as its shown on the big screen and then the commentry team can't explain whats happening to those watching at home. Just standing up and doing it while play is happening would seem confusing and may not be picked up by sky. We have over a month to sort something and considering the Saints game is for JoiningJack it would better than big one.
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| Seems a bit odd to do it during the game. If something is happening in play, a fight, try, penalty etc, no one will do it.
If it's being done, do it at the start.
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| Should be in the 12th minute.London 2012 and all that.
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| Quote ="JCWWRL"If when we play saints wouldn't it be better to request on the 4th minute the ref stocks the clock and all players and fans do it?? That way everyone will have an idea of whats happening as its shown on the big screen and then the commentry team can't explain whats happening to those watching at home. Just standing up and doing it while play is happening would seem confusing and may not be picked up by sky. We have over a month to sort something and considering the Saints game is for JoiningJack it would better than big one.'"
Are you serious?
Unless the teams decide to play golf I can't see how this is possible.
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| Quote ="alectrician"Should be in the 12th minute.London 2012 and all that.'"
sweet lord.
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