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| I see that Ian Smith is the video ref in France. He was the video ref last year and with about 10 minutes to go he disallowed a pefectly good try (by Hoffman, I think) which would have given us the lead with 10 minutes to go.
He also disallowed a good try by Jack Hughes last week at Leeds.
I can understand a referee making a wrong decision because he has to decide instantly but there is no excuse for a video referee to make terrible decisions.
The fact that it has happened twice against Wigan gives food for thought.
Or am I paranoid? Don't answer that.
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| It's the RFL's version of a handicap system to keep us on our toes and give the other lesser teams a chance of catching us.
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| Quote ="Salty"I see that Ian Smith is the video ref in France. He was the video ref last year and with about 10 minutes to go he disallowed a pefectly good try (by Hoffman, I think) which would have given us the lead with 10 minutes to go.
He also disallowed a good try by Jack Hughes last week at Leeds.
I can understand a referee making a wrong decision because he has to decide instantly but there is no excuse for a video referee to make terrible decisions.
The fact that it has happened twice against Wigan gives food for thought.
Or am I paranoid? Don't answer that.'"
Last weeks was just evening up the lima try, well i hope it was as it woild just be incompetance for any other reason.
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| Quote ="Sharpy_4a"Last weeks was just evening up the lima try, well i hope it was as it woild just be incompetance for any other reason.'"
And it's incompetence to attempt to even something up that he shouldn't have been trying to even up as it was nowt to do with the video ref Jack Hughes' try was A-OK and should have been awarded.
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| Quote ="Sharpy_4a"Last weeks was just evening up the lima try, well i hope it was as it woild just be incompetance for any other reason.'"
In that case he should be reprimanded.
Anyway, aren't decisions like Lima's try supposed to even themselves up without any help?
I've seen many Leeds' tries scored off forward passes but I've never seen the video ref subsequently disallow a perfectly good try.
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| Quote ="Salty"In that case he should be reprimanded.
Anyway, aren't decisions like Lima's try supposed to even themselves up without any help?
I've seen many Leeds' tries scored off forward passes but I've never seen the video ref subsequently disallow a perfectly good try.'"
Never been a big beliver in the old "they even themselves up over the year" routine as you could be 40-0 up when it evens itselef up if you get my drift.
As soon as he went to the screen I said he wouldnt give it no matter what as we got away with one with Limas try.
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| Quote ="Sharpy_4a"Never been a big beliver in the old "they even themselves up over the year" routine as you could be 40-0 up when it evens itselef up if you get my drift.
As soon as he went to the screen I said he wouldnt give it no matter what as we got away with one with Limas try.'"
But on GMR last night they had the match referee on and he said the Lima try would have been awarded any way because the Leeds player knocked the ball out of Lima's grasp and then Lima touched it down, making it a perfectly good try.
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| Quote ="proper-shaped-balls"But on GMR last night they had the match referee on and he said the Lima try would have been awarded any way because the Leeds player knocked the ball out of Lima's grasp and then Lima touched it down, making it a perfectly good try.'"
So smith should be sacked for being incompetant for getting the hughes no try wrong then.
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| Quote ="Sharpy_4a"So smith should be sacked for being incompetant for getting the hughes no try wrong then.'"
All those in favour say, "Aye."
I'm just worried about tomorrow.
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| Why a video ref if the games not being shown on Sky?
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| Quote ="jjsgran"Why a video ref if the games not being shown on Sky?'"
All the games in france have a video ref. Plus its on french television
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| Quote ="Sharpy_4a"All the games in france have a video ref. Plus its on french television'" oh ok thanks do you know if we can stream the game over here?
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| dodgy try given to the dragons, rigged as you predicted
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| Quote ="Mash Butty"dodgy try given to the dragons, rigged as you predicted'"
I did predict it but it gives me no satisfaction.
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| What did Child say after the mickey mac penalty? Don't go in using your head? Hock was sent off and had a 2 match ban for a head butt, not sure who the catalan player was who tried to head butt mickey mac but he just had a ticking off, yet again another demonstration that Hock has one rule book and the rest of the league have another. Pathetic
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| Quote ="Mash Butty"What did Child say after the mickey mac penalty? Don't go in using your head? Hock was sent off and had a 2 match ban for a head butt, not sure who the catalan player was who tried to head butt mickey mac but he just had a ticking off, yet again another demonstration that Hock has one rule book and the rest of the league have another. Pathetic'"
Hock wasn't sent off or banned for a head butt. If you're going to have a rant at least get the basics right.
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| Quote ="Mash Butty"What did Child say after the mickey mac penalty? Don't go in using your head? Hock was sent off and had a 2 match ban for a head butt, not sure who the catalan player was who tried to head butt mickey mac but he just had a ticking off, yet again another demonstration that Hock has one rule book and the rest of the league have another. Pathetic'"
Are you honestly surprised though?
Late and high tackle on tomkins, just on report no benefit to us at all
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"It's the RFL's version of a handicap system to keep us on our toes and give the other lesser teams a chance of catching us.'"
Exactly!! I definitely couldn't say it better.
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| Well, that's the third wrong decision by Smith against Wigan. His decision last year in France cost us the game. His two terrible decisions this year had no bearing on the final outcome but I am seething. It's just not on.
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| the Penalty Try really was a shocker. If that game was on Sky it would have had a big thread on the VT about how poor it was. Mickey was tackling the player as he was getting the ball and it was certainly not certain that a try would have been scored as he was about 3 meters out when he hit the ground.
I honestly am amazed at the terrible decision, but at the same time I am not surprised at all.
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| Quote ="Salty"In that case he should be reprimanded.
Anyway, aren't decisions like Lima's try supposed to even themselves up without any help?
I've seen many Leeds' tries scored off forward passes but I've never seen the video ref subsequently disallow a perfectly good try.'"
I agree, two wrongs don't make a right. He should judge on what he's asked, and not try to even the game up after a bad refereeing mistake earlier. This is not only against the rules, it's stupid.
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